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I still think things are uncertain. These are rumors and unfinalized plans that are going around. A new article on italiaspeed about the Fiat Group execs at Geneva has a few interesting details - some good - some bad. The relevant one for this thread is that Montezemolo announced that Maserati's production capacity would be increased

"to allow for the assembly of Alfa Romeo models, although these are expected to be strictly low-volume cars."

If that turns out to be the case what else would it but the 8C?

Another new rumor in that article about the Trepiłno is that DCX is willing to cooperate since their Smart brand is losing money. So it may be based on the Smart.

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They cant axe this, i wont allow it, its just not fair FINALY Alfa took it to their pride to reproduce a monster to fight the fight amongst the rest of the european supercars. If this bulging peice of brutal yet elegant artwork is put to rest, i think i speak for any Alfisti, it shall be a dark day in the revival of such a powerful icon.

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One thing that i still find amusing is the fact that ENZO FERRARI used to work for alfa about an odd 70 years ago.

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I've heard the 8c project has been killed and restarted literally 10 times on here, until I see some official release from Alfa, I won't believe it.. Everyone can speculate, if Alfa misses one Autoshow on the circuit for the 8c, everyone starts talking about how its killed, haha. Anyway, it seemed like a definite go when it kept showing up more and more evolved, but with recent GM woes i wouldnt be surprised if it was scrapped,

The big problem i keep hearing about (again speculation).. is that it's being too much competition for the maserati 4200gt. lol umm have you actually looked at the pics of this car? its like hi.. lets design an unreal concept car, and then scrap it because its too good and will hurt sales of another one of our cars. talk about CONFLICT of Interest!!! haha. Does Alfa even have say in the cars its "allowed" to make?
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My gut feeling is that the 8C will be produced. Its the only logical marketing decision. Both Maserati and Alfa need a marque car. Something to hang their hats on that make people take notice. And Maserati and Alfa need to get their pricing competitive with Mercedes and BMW respectively.

Maserati and Alfa are both going for clients that purchase more than a mode of transportation. Fiat is the Chevy. Maserati and Alfa are the premium brands. I doubt that they are concerned about pulling market share from Maserati based on 8C sales. They're ignorant if they are! Produce them both, making them different enough to appeal independently. And worry about taking market share from BMW/Mercedes/Jaguar/Lotus/Porsche. This kind of strategy is done every day with Nissan vs Infinity (i.e. 350z vs G35), Honda vs Acura, Toyota vs Lexus, Chevy vs Cadillac, Ford vs Lincoln. Some people like the rawness of a 350z...some like the luxury of a G35. Fiat/Alfa/Maserati would be wise to produce the raw, incredibly handling Alfa 8C and the plush powerful Maserati 4200GT. And I really cannot believe they would let the 8C's design fall into the trash bin when it's getting more press than when the Brera was introduced. I say that's hog wash. It doesn't make sense marketing wise, publicity wise, common sense wise, spiritually wise, karma wise......hell.....Its the next Stadale, for god's sake!

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I've heard the 8c project has been killed and restarted literally 10 times on here, until I see some official release from Alfa, I won't believe it.. Everyone can speculate, if Alfa misses one Autoshow on the circuit for the 8c, everyone starts talking about how its killed, haha. Anyway, it seemed like a definite go when it kept showing up more and more evolved, but with recent GM woes i wouldnt be surprised if it was scrapped,

The big problem i keep hearing about (again speculation).. is that it's being too much competition for the maserati 4200gt. lol umm have you actually looked at the pics of this car? its like hi.. lets design an unreal concept car, and then scrap it because its too good and will hurt sales of another one of our cars. talk about CONFLICT of Interest!!! haha. Does Alfa even have say in the cars its "allowed" to make?
I realize that everything with Alfa is back and forth and it must be especially true with this car. However, of all the things that were in that article - this seemed to be the most encouraging and the most substantial. Montezemolo actually said they're going to increase production capacity at Maserati to build a low volume Alfa Romeo. He didn't say it was the 8C - but what else would it be? Also, this is not some magazine or some web editor or someone like me speculating but the CEO of Ferrari - and it seems like he usually has his way.

I also think it will not be a conflict of interest. For one thing Maserati probably already has capacity to build the car - or at least most of it - since they're supposed to be selling more cars than they are. Also having the 8C seems like a great way to get dealers to sign up in this country. They would start with this great showroom magnet and sell a high margin car. Also since it seems like the 8C is more of a sports car if buyers go to the showroom and find the 8C is too hard edged - the dealer could sell them a slightly softer Maserati. Or for most people they could go see the 8C and get interested in the 159/Brera. Besides Maserati is probably going to have a 5.0L V8 coupe/folding hardtop spyder soon - so there's less overlap.

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Deposits being returned?
I saw this post on italiaspeed ealier today
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I placed a £1,000 deposit for an 8C Competizione in April 2004 with a UK Alfa main dealer.

As the past year has gone by I would call the dealer every now & then for an update but they never knew much and I gained more info from what I read on Italiaspeed.

I recently had to go to Milan on business and, encouraged by the Italiaspeed article of 18 January 2005, I asked an Italian friend of mine to contact Arese to ask if I could go to see the car. Unfortunately that would not be possible as it was at the Amsterdam show that week but they asked me to send a copy of the deposit invoice to them. I did that and they never replied to me again.

However, two weeks after that (beginning of this month) I received a letter out of the blue from my Alfa dealer returning my deposit and saying that they had just been told that the car would definitely not go into production. My guess is that the invoice I sent Arese was used to check who had taken the deposit and the dealer was then contacted and told to refund it. On the other hand, it might just be coincidence and Kalbfell has just recently decided not to proceed with it.

Whatever the background, it seems pretty likely that the project is dead, which is a great shame. I would be happy if somebody could prove me wrong...
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8c will be build in the end of 2006 with V8 and about 500hp engine horsepower....


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If they kill this car, I will dispose of every Alfa Romeo I own - and I mean EVERY SINGLE ONE...

The company (take note - not the brand or the Alfisti) the company - deserves to die a miserable death if they dump this car and along with it, their return to these shores....

Strong words, I know - but this is what it has come to.

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can I have the 3.7 litre milano?

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can I have the 3.7 litre milano?
Hey! you already have one! I want it!

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The only reason why I think they would return a deposit and still build the car is if they were going to build a substantially different car. It seems if people who had put a deposit down and didn't like it could then take legal action. Although this seems to imply the car they do build is not as good. So I don't know.
I'm still wondering about how Luca said Maserati would be expanding capacity to build a low volume Alfa.
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Hey! you already have one! I want it!

hey hey sean you already got your deal on the 164!!

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Maybe I spoke too quick...

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So which one do I get?

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