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it's official.
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Just what the world needs; another $100,000+ sports car
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I would have been more extatic at the news of an Alfa/Maserati V6 and/or return to RWD. However, the 8C will be a great car to come back to US with.
Since it is almost impossible to get a new 430 and Spider, the 8C with similiar performance and engine will sell very well.
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I saw this on Italiaspeed and AR.it the other day. this looks to be pretty much the proof we needed, let all the naysayers that this car would never happen finally shut up.

As for a another non-needed 100k + exotic? If Alfa Romeo doesnt deserve to have a car which is ready for the track, who does? Going by the proposed #'s and fancies (carbon fiber body) thats exactly what this car will be, Its a **** shame that Alfa Romeo has been relegated to only having passenger cars considering its history and racing heritage.

And guess what, near ready to race street cars are expensive... deal with it or just hate all exotics I guess? I say this is good news for things to come at AR, with the current AWD cars combined with RWD cars perhaps in the future Alfa's future is looking way way up.

My guess in about a year, Russian's new Screenname will be Russian8C_dude... and he'll try to make us all forget his hate on AR's...

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My point is that the 8c is irrelevent to 95% of Alfa fans. As to getting a new Maserati, there are at least a half dozen available here at the dealer in Salt Lake City. I have heard of no problem in getting a new Maserati.
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They're only building like 500 for the world next year. No the market doesn't need another sports car in that segment but did Ford have to build the GT? How many of the typical F150 and Focus buyers fit into that income bracket? It did generate a lot of publicity and I'm sure it brought a lot of people into the showrooms. They're doing it again with the Mustang GT500.

I think the 8C makes sense for Alfa Romeo to use it as a promotional tool if they relaunch in the North American market. They can put one in the showrooms, show it in print ads and say Hey look at this great car we make, if you can't afford it we'll be happy to sell you this nice 159 instead.
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To me, the 8C is more "Alfa" than any current-generation Alfa available in showrooms today.

The 8C acknowledges what Alfa has not been able to do in a long time; create an uncompromised, cutting-edge sports car that can compete with the likes of Porsche and other more prestigious makes. This is relevant to me because it gives me hope that at least a few people at Fiat and Alfa have their heads screwed on correctly. Maybe some of what makes the 8C such a cool car will find its way into Alfa's less expensive offerings down the line and more people will actually think its worth it to own one.

That's my $.02
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I saw this on Italiaspeed and AR.it the other day. this looks to be pretty much the proof we needed, let all the naysayers that this car would never happen finally shut up.

As for a another non-needed 100k + exotic? If Alfa Romeo doesnt deserve to have a car which is ready for the track, who does? Going by the proposed #'s and fancies (carbon fiber body) thats exactly what this car will be, Its a **** shame that Alfa Romeo has been relegated to only having passenger cars considering its history and racing heritage.

And guess what, near ready to race street cars are expensive... deal with it or just hate all exotics I guess? I say this is good news for things to come at AR, with the current AWD cars combined with RWD cars perhaps in the future Alfa's future is looking way way up.

My guess in about a year, Russian's new Screenname will be Russian8C_dude... and he'll try to make us all forget his hate on AR's...
I would really like to buy one. However between a 430 and an 8c it is no contest, I take the Ferrari, since I already drive a 360 Spider from time to time and love that car. However due to my spending habits, all I can hope for in the next 2 years is a low mileage 355.
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I would really like to buy one. However between a 430 and an 8c it is no contest, I take the Ferrari, since I already drive a 360 Spider from time to time and love that car. However due to my spending habits, all I can hope for in the next 2 years is a low mileage 355.
Id probably take the Gallardo over the Ferrari just because everytime I see one.. I mean. HEAR one. im just like wow. But Id probably take the 8C over either of these if its priced similiarly, slightly biased of course, plus front engined..rear wheel drive. carbon fibre..very cool bragging rights...lots of fun.

But in all honesty youre comparing the wrong cars.. which i will now make a new thread on..
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8c competizione will be presented in Paris (September) as AR’s brand manager Baravalle told in Geneva.It will use the new V8 Alfa/Ferrari/Maserati in 4.7lt edition me more hp compared to 450hp of the upcoming Maserati Spyder GT (2006)….It will have at least 470/80hp

8c spider was presented in pebble beach concours of elegance wich is one of the three most important elegance contests (concours of elegance) and the main feature was AR……AR is one of the few companies that can be the main feature of such exhibitions.
Audi/Bmw or even Porsche never were the main feature of such contest despite Bmw is one of those events defrayer.

8c competizione’s deliveries will start in 2007.The upcoming flaghship of AR (169-2008) will also be RWD (4door coupe of 5m based in maserati quattroporte’s platform/transaxle).Fiat headquarters think of the new generation of 159/sportwagon/brera/spider (2012) to be RWD but is very early to speak about.

After 8c’s production we will soon see a race version of 8c for GT and the next goal for AR is the return in Le Man.

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8c competizione will be presented in Paris (September) as AR’s brand manager Baravalle told in Geneva.It will use the new V8 Alfa/Ferrari/Maserati in 4.7lt edition me more hp compared to 450hp of the upcoming Maserati Spyder GT (2006)….It will have at least 470/80hp

8c spider was presented in pebble beach concours of elegance wich is one of the three most important elegance contests (concours of elegance) and the main feature was AR……AR is one of the few companies that can be the main feature of such exhibitions.
Audi/Bmw or even Porsche never were the main feature of such contest despite Bmw is one of those events defrayer.

8c competizione’s deliveries will start in 2007.The upcoming flaghship of AR (169-2008) will also be RWD (4door coupe of 5m based in maserati quattroporte’s platform/transaxle).Fiat headquarters think of the new generation of 159/sportwagon/brera/spider (2012) to be RWD but is very early to speak about.

After 8c’s production we will soon see a race version of 8c for GT and the next goal for AR is the return in Le Man.

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I think it would be far more productive for Alfa to build the kind of car Alfisti want (something like a modern 2 liter RWD Giulietta or Giulia) than to spend millions building a car like the 8C and then race it.
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Or better yet, design and build the next generation of proper ALFA engines.
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The marriage between Fiat and GM is already over. The GM engines in Alfas are just fallout from the old business deal. The 8C is the first new Alfa to use a Maserati engine and it won't be the last. My guess is that the new alliance between Alfa and Maserati will spark co-devlopment projects of new engines to be used by both brands. GM engines will eventually be phased out.

I wouldn't be suprised if we ended up seeing some of these engines in the current generation of Alfa cars later on in their production cycles.

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The marriage between Fiat and GM is already over. The GM engines in Alfas are just fallout from the old business deal. The 8C is the first new Alfa to use a Maserati engine and it won't be the last. My guess is that the new alliance between Alfa and Maserati will spark co-devlopment projects of new engines to be used by both brands. GM engines will eventually be phased out.

I wouldn't be suprised if we ended up seeing some of these engines in the current generation of Alfa cars later on in their production cycles.
Maserati sourced V6 would be wonderfull. Maybe a Ferrari sourced 4 cylinder?(they made one for MV Agusta).
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