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102 vs. 106 tools

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#1 ·
From various digest entries I have noticed that 102 tools and at least late 106 tools have different Alfa spare parts catalog part numbers. I have not seen the early 106 part numbers.
So a few questions:
1) Did early 106 tools use the same 102.00.80.xxx part numbers? If not what were they?
2) Were 102 and early 106 wrenches both chrome plated?
3) Since late 106 part numbers are identical to the 101 and 105 pieces, are they actually identical? For example, not chrome plated?
 
#2 ·
The answer to all your questions is Yes or No

Like cars/engines alfa romeo did not bother matching anything . If they were building a car and had some parts they would put them on , my UK sold 2600 Spider has US spec bumpers and inicators.

On the tools you got what you got

I have 2000 and 2600 toolboxes with fully chromed tools , but that does not mean they all were.

I have seen posts trying to identify which pliers are correct for a Toolbox , arguing markings or etching on they pliers prove they are or they are not. The pliers in my two original toolboxes are slightly different. I believe Alfa would take a drawing to a plier manufacturer and ask for a sample and a price for a 1,000. If they ordered I doubt if they checked the pliers supplied exactly matched the drawing.

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Carl, to answer the question about parts numbers, some parts catalog pages below:

1. 102 parts catalog Pub. 685, dated 07/1959, with 1960-61 amendments for 102 Sprint (note that Berlina and Spider have different numbers for complete tool boxes, but tools seem to be the same).
2. 106 parts catalog Pub. 992, dated 06/1964 (single volume manual covering only "Series 1" cars with tool box).
3. 106 parts catalog Pub. 1164, dated 03/1966 (Vol. 2 of 2-volume parts catalog, after "Series 2" cars were introduced, and tool kits standardized to tool rolls for all Alfas, as discussed in this thread).

Based on the parts numbers, it appears the only new tool introduced with 106 cars was the 21x27 mm box wrench.

Pictures of various tool boxes can be found in this thread.

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#4 ·
Thanks, that helps a lot ………. by the way, my 2000 Spare Parts copy is 728 (11/1960). Tab 139 is the same as your 685, dated 07/1959 shown above.

So your pub 992 table 212 (series 1) and your pub 1164 table 115 (series 2) are both 102 numbers.

Did the 2400.xxxxx numbered tools (as used by Giulia) only apply to the SZ (pub 1167)?
 
#5 · (Edited)
Pub. 728 is the English version of the Italian Pub. 685. I have yet to see a copy of Pub. 728 with the 102 Sprint amendments.

As for the 2400.xxxxx tools, there was no amendment to Pub. 992 or 1164. The 2600 SZ staretd production in Jun-1965, after TSB 0.00.041, dated 26-Jun-1964, was released. The 2600 SZ parts catalog Pub. 1167 (04/1966) may be one of the earliest Alfa parts catalogs listing the complete set of 2400.xxxxx numbers (the TSB doesn't list any parts numbers), but the Giulia TZ parts catalog Pub. 1051 (03/1965) already lists a sub-set of the tools with 2400 numbers (the TZ and other parts catalogs can be downloaded as PDF files (with corporate branding) from the OKP web site here).

As the TSB states it applies to "All Models", it appears to apply all (meaning each and every) 2600 and 105 car model from that point in time forward (the same 2400.xxxxx numbers can be found in the 1600 Spider parts catalog Pub. 1184 (06/1966) and other 105 parts catalogs).
 
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On all of the wrenches in my pristine 106 toolkit, the size is marked only on one side (first 3 pictures below). Note the crappy casting quality of the back side. Note also that the size numbers are rotated 90 degrees compared to your picture and that the "19" and "22" are not the same size.

I had a 102 toolkit once with the same wrenches (but the numbers on the wrenches in different size/font -- 4th picture below), and there was a 102 toolkit on eBay a few years ago with what seem to be the exact same wrenches (see this post) as my 106 toolkit.

Also, some 102 wrenches seem to have had numbers on the back rather than "Made in Italy", see this post.

So, I would not bet on all 102 and/or 106 tools being just one kind or the other. Most likely, there was variation in production (sand casting?) and evolution and/or randomness with transition periods and/or overlap from 1900 to 102 and then to 106, i.e. what was available at what time.

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