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1959 Touring Roadster very original on eBay

There is a black 1959 Touring on eBay in need of a total restoration. The car is very original and appears to be very solid. The car even retains the original silver type spark plug wires and ends; something you rarely ever see. The stock 1958-'59 dash mounted rear view mirror is original but has been placed on a raised platform. The interior has a vintage look but seems to have extra padding and a non standard pattern.

I sent a link of this car to Carson Murphy. Many of you will remember that he tried unsuccessfully to repurchase his late father's black 1959 Touring. Eventually that car was sold and shipped abroad.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-Alfa-R...r/193000173234

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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 07-22-2019, 07:22 AM
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Hmmm. Mighty close to a hub of Alfa activity to be unknown. Anyone over there know this car or owner?

We might recall that our friend “Dabraham” bought a black 102 on eBay, and ended up having to file for a refund from EBay because of the scam.

A quick scan of the seller’s reviews reveals lots of small trinkets and jewelry, and nothing like this.

I hope it’s real, but I’d like to hear from someone near Santa Rosa who has seen the car.

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Past Alfas...
59 102 Touring (first Alfa $500 running)
65 Sprint GT (2nd Alfa, $500 daily driver)
102 Sprint (never did anything with it, but wish I had)
74 Berlina (first new car - now certainly rusted into oblivion)
61 Giulietta Spider G-Prod Race Car (where is it now?)
84 Spider Veloce (rarely drove it, so sold it)
86 Quadrifoglio (Dull car - no more 115s for me)
1971 Montreal "The Full Monty". Fair winds and following seas

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59 102 Touring Roadster - restoration complete, enough Alfa for any rational man. Or irrational, for that matter
Oops. Add to the "present" list, 10204 01488, 2000 Touring Roadster project

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Two 1946 Stampe SV4C (c/n 294 "Rocinante" - wife's favorite airplane. RIP), and c/n 235 "La Bon Temps Femme" (gone to a new home, but never forgotten)
Zlin 50LA (+9 -6 gees, titanium spar, 1200 lbs, 260HP rumored to now be in Brazil)
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1955 Cessna 170B (wife taught me to fly tailwheel in this)

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64 Mooney M20E ("Rambo". My faithful steed for over 40 years) Over 55 years old, and just returned from a trip to Argentina in him
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1967 Piper Super Cub on Wipline amphibious floats (a true "all terrain vehicle")
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This car as advertised is a scam. It was sold on BaT a few years ago and now resides in the UK. This is the same scam car and pictures that a member got scammed on eBay with. It keeps reappearing because it appears to work on people, drawing five figure bids and payment from an ecstatic sucker who hasn't done their homework and thinks they've picked up a car at a bargain price.
My guess is the existing account owners account has been hacked.
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Hmmm. Mighty close to a hub of Alfa activity to be unknown. Anyone over there know this car or owner?

We might recall that our friend “Dabraham” bought a black 102 on eBay, and ended up having to file for a refund from EBay because of the scam.

A quick scan of the seller’s reviews reveals lots of small trinkets and jewelry, and nothing like this.

I hope it’s real, but I’d like to hear from someone near Santa Rosa who has seen the car.
Too good to be true.

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This car as advertised is a scam. It was sold on BaT a few years ago and now resides in the UK. This is the same scam car and pictures that a member got scammed on eBay with.
The write-up is awfully brief for a car of this nature: 1959 Alfa Romeo 2000 Spider Equipped with a 5speed manual transmission. Black with tan leather interior. Unrestored. Original paint. This car comes equipped with the rare optioned hard top, and remains an overall very original and complete example to restore. All numbers match. Engine start and runs.

The trees in the background sure don't look like Santa Rosa, Ca. (where the car is supposedly located):

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I don't see it in the BAT archives but it was listed by DriverSource Fine Motorcars in Houston at one time, now listed as sold. Price was ~$66K. The pictures have been lifted from their website. https://inventory.driversource.com/v...lfa-romeo-2000 If you haven't flagged this on ebay, please do. It takes more than one person doing so for ebay to pull the listing.
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If you haven't flagged this on ebay, please do. It takes more than one person doing so for ebay to pull the listing.
I reported the listing as fraudulent to eBay. Their reporting form leaves little room for any explanation. Also went through sellers feedback to ask a question about their car's history...

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The "lister" on eBay gave me the following additional brief reply. I agree with AlfaJay that for a car of this nature the description is very brief. (I listed a 1993 Toyota T-100 for my father once with a much more comprehensive description. The truck is now 26 years old and has only 75K miles):

"Hi, I bought this car in 2018 as an investment, with plans to fully restore it, but right now I'm forced to sell it because I need some cash. I'm the 3rd owner, the previous owner had the car for almost 40years. The car start, runs and drives, but will need to be checked before to put it on long roads. For more pics gve me your emalladrrr. Thank you"

The DriverSource ad shows the car as belonging to 'MIKE BRTLL' (no vowels?) in Los Angeles, CA in 1976.

Carson Murphy got back in touch with me and asked if I had the contact information for the current U.K. owner of his father's old Touring Roadster; the 'Jazz Man's car' ? He would like to stay in touch with them. If you are the current U.K. owner, would you please send me or Carson a P.M.?

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