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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-16-2019, 05:30 PM Thread Starter
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I am a new 1961 Type 102 owner. Parts being sought.

Currently looking for a period correct toolkit, seat belts, rear view mirror, and dash badge. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Located in Los Angeles.

Thanks, Bill
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-16-2019, 06:03 PM
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Don already replied in this thread (and so did I -- I asked the mods to merge them).

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First time i've seen a "slammed" 102 spider, normally reserved for BMW's round here

Firat pic is how it should look
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Redmerlin,

Look at these pictures from 2000 Touring Spiders in Road&Track (1959) and the Alfa Romeo 2000 Instruction Book. The stance of Bill's car (and even the the BMW's in your surroundings!) appear much closer to the original 102 Spider stance than your car on the picture.

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post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-18-2019, 06:10 AM
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The 102 and 106 are old enough that the springs can become a bit compressed. Also, if the front suspension is not kept well greased, it can become stiff. This can result in the front remaining lower when parked if the manner of braking while stopping is just a certain way. In fact they can become so stiff the front end stays low all of the time.

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Past Alfas...
59 102 Touring (first Alfa $500 running)
65 Sprint GT (2nd Alfa, $500 daily driver)
102 Sprint (never did anything with it, but wish I had)
74 Berlina (first new car - now certainly rusted into oblivion)
61 Giulietta Spider G-Prod Race Car (where is it now?)
84 Spider Veloce (rarely drove it, so sold it)
86 Quadrifoglio (Dull car - no more 115s for me)
1971 Montreal "The Full Monty". Fair winds and following seas

Current Alfas
59 102 Touring Roadster - restoration complete, enough Alfa for any rational man. Or irrational, for that matter
Oops. Add to the "present" list, 10204 01488, 2000 Touring Roadster project

And past...
Two 1946 Stampe SV4C (c/n 294 "Rocinante" - wife's favorite airplane. RIP), and c/n 235 "La Bon Temps Femme" (gone to a new home, but never forgotten)
Zlin 50LA (+9 -6 gees, titanium spar, 1200 lbs, 260HP rumored to now be in Brazil)
1946 Luscombe 8A
Starduster Too (recently spotted at the Nevada City, CA airport - over 20 years and an entire continent separating it from our stewardship in Binghamton, NY)
1955 Cessna 170B (wife taught me to fly tailwheel in this)

And present...
64 Mooney M20E ("Rambo". My faithful steed for over 40 years) Over 55 years old, and just returned from a trip to Argentina in him
Newest in the fleet
1967 Piper Super Cub on Wipline amphibious floats (a true "all terrain vehicle")
2010 Triumph Thunderbird


You can snap roll an Alfa only one time...
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For my part, I find the ride height perfect on the right side.
The right rear tire ideally fits the outline of the wheel arch.

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The problem seems to come from the left side, and especially from the back.
The left rear wheel is much too tight.

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Nevertheless, this car is very beautiful. And as already expressed on the other post, the treatment of the upholstery is very successful.

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Welcome Bill, your Touring is beautiful and well photographed! My car sits low, like the car photographed in 1959 R&T article, too! I have thought about changing the springs to help it sit more level but then I'd have to shorten the new springs a bit to get the 'right' look. I may use a spacer under the springs instead of changing them.

It looks like Serge added photographs of your car in post #6 that shows it with the 1959 beveled glass style of rear view mirror. If the mirror is corroded it can be re-plated -just ask for gunmetal (or black chrome). I had mine redone years ago and and it turned out great! You can search for the post, I think it was done by Cliff's in Oregon....

What sort of parking brake does your car have? Is it electric; I don't see a brake handle.

Mark

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What sort of parking brake does your car have? Is it electric; I don't see a brake handle.
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The 2000 uses an extra spacer on the right, rear spring, presumably to counter the weight of the fuel and battery at the right, rear of the car. It is possible that someone reassembled things incorrectly, either omitting something on the left, or installing a wrong spacer on the right.

If things are already assembled correctly, you can try a shim on the left side, but different than the front, a rear shim gives you only a one-to-one correction. I doubt either the upper or lower spring seat would safely contain the spring if the necessarily thick shim was used.

Franco is offering new springs. Probably the best solution.

Or, find another right-side spacer and add it to the left. Not technically perfect, but it might work.

Don P
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Past Alfas...
59 102 Touring (first Alfa $500 running)
65 Sprint GT (2nd Alfa, $500 daily driver)
102 Sprint (never did anything with it, but wish I had)
74 Berlina (first new car - now certainly rusted into oblivion)
61 Giulietta Spider G-Prod Race Car (where is it now?)
84 Spider Veloce (rarely drove it, so sold it)
86 Quadrifoglio (Dull car - no more 115s for me)
1971 Montreal "The Full Monty". Fair winds and following seas

Current Alfas
59 102 Touring Roadster - restoration complete, enough Alfa for any rational man. Or irrational, for that matter
Oops. Add to the "present" list, 10204 01488, 2000 Touring Roadster project

And past...
Two 1946 Stampe SV4C (c/n 294 "Rocinante" - wife's favorite airplane. RIP), and c/n 235 "La Bon Temps Femme" (gone to a new home, but never forgotten)
Zlin 50LA (+9 -6 gees, titanium spar, 1200 lbs, 260HP rumored to now be in Brazil)
1946 Luscombe 8A
Starduster Too (recently spotted at the Nevada City, CA airport - over 20 years and an entire continent separating it from our stewardship in Binghamton, NY)
1955 Cessna 170B (wife taught me to fly tailwheel in this)

And present...
64 Mooney M20E ("Rambo". My faithful steed for over 40 years) Over 55 years old, and just returned from a trip to Argentina in him
Newest in the fleet
1967 Piper Super Cub on Wipline amphibious floats (a true "all terrain vehicle")
2010 Triumph Thunderbird


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Thanks Serge, perhaps I should have asked 'what is the device, on the hump, between the seats'? (ejection seat switch, maybe)

I've been working on a Duetto and forgot the handbrake on the Roadster was on the side of the hump...

What is the serial number of the red car under discussion? It would not be easy to convert the 1958-59 dash mounted mirror to the 1960-1961 instrument binnacle mounted mirror.

Mark
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Thanks Serge, perhaps I should have asked 'what is the device, on the hump, between the seats'? (ejection seat switch, maybe)
The control of the modern radio car that is in the trunk ;-)

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