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post #166 of 269 (permalink) Old 03-18-2019, 10:02 AM Thread Starter
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I think I found it at myalfa.eu ==> link

part on the left of the page.

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Just one hint:

If this is RIV Number 9622B, which it is for Tipo 102, then there may be more accessible sources :

SKF N1172
SKF N1752T
ACDelco CT979
SEALED POWER C-4021N
McQuay-Norris BC1172
TOWMOTOR A3244

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Hi All,

FYI

original clutch release bearing for 1900 seri and 102 seri is the same

for 2600 seri is different

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post #169 of 269 (permalink) Old 03-21-2019, 12:33 PM
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Hi Chris, Franco
Regarding your question on the clutch part, you got me confused.
The drawing in post 165 is not in any of my 1900 books, I really would like to know where you got this drawing from, because apparently there is more 1900 books, information that I donít know of.
But the part that you are looking for, the one in the drawing, is as far as I know not a 1900 css clutch part, it is quite different from the part I have installed.
Unfortunately the link that you sent does not work, so I can not see if that item is correct.
Then, there is Franco, who has taken apart and rebuild many more cars than I have and he confirms that the part is the correct.
The part in the drawing looks like a 2000 part, but I can not confirm that because I donít have that car.
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Hello Mike,

The doc on #165 is coming from 2000 touring.

In my bell housing, the central axe for the release bearing has a small diameter.

When I received the release bearing for 1900, the center one, or the right one, on the page, the hole for axe was too big than my axe diameter. It was a gap between the fork and the bearing as well.

So I understand that the correct one for my car is the one shown on #165 or # 166 (the link is workng now)

I also understood that my car is an "interim" one (Interim : it's a word that comes from me for the car). Because I have some 1st serie equipment, some 2nd serie fitting, ando so on....

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Hi Chris,
I think I now understand your clutch problem. You received a bearing and thought the diameter was too big.
And as Franco was pointing out, the bearing for 1900 and 2000 is the same size.
The bearing you have bought is probably the correct one, but,
Am I correct in thinking you are missing the ‘adapter’ sleeve, the item on the right side of my picture?
This adapter is different on a 1900 compared to the one (seems a lot longer) in the drawing (apparently 2000).
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Yes, I received the bearing on the left side of your picture, but I don't have the right part of your picture.

For that reason, I think the bearing I spoke in post #166 could be correct with an "included adaptater" ?

Mike, let me know your point of view about that.

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Chris,
First of all, if you are looking for a part, I would advise you to use a drawing or copy from a 1900 parts manual.
Because the 2000 part you were looking and asking for is quite different and would not have helped you.

I think buying the part (left one in your post 166 link) will be perfect.
But if It was me looking for that same part I would buy an original, simply because it is original, and yes I would spend extra cash maybe for nothing. But I like to make the car as original as possible.
And this is not a specific Css part so it should be fairly easy to find.
But both options will work fine,
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I use a 1900 parts manual. Sometimes, I am looking in the 2000 because I can't find in the 1900 the info I need (some lack of precision).

The focus is to have a driving car. So if I find a 2000 touring part that fit perfectly, it's OK for the clutch system, I'll put it without problem. I don't want to spend months looking for the "original" 1900 part, that could be impossible to find... At the end, the clutch system is invisible.

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Ciao Chris,
congratulations for this fantastic work.
On my car i have eliminate original Fichtel Sachs and so all problems about this parts.
Factory (C.O.M.E srl)gave me new diafragm clutch and a new release bearing 100% identical to original.
This Italian factory is very old and produced Fichtel Sachs and other clutch for italian cars.
Bearing is not so expensive...you must only show factory your original.
On Come s.r.l. - clutch service - products and servicesthere is PDF catalogue,if there isn't your bearing you can contact them.

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Hi Gigi,

That's a so nice info ! I'll contact them.

By the way, I tried to contact MALO spa (email sent) and ask for some parts or a distributor, no aswer for days now. I have the MALO parts number, and the parts are on their catalogs.
Do you have an idea where can I look for MALO parts ?

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Hi Gigi,

That's a so nice info ! I'll contact them.
That's actually an outstanding link -- thank you, Gigi, for posting it.

Below are the relevant pages from their "Epoch" PDF catalog (with relevant rows highlighted in green) -- they list 2 component variations for 1900 (Borg & Beck and Fichtel & Sachs). Apparently, they also know of some component variation for 102 cars. Note also the picture at the bottom left corner of the 3rd page shows 4 different throwout bearing types for 1900/2000/2600.

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-Ruedi
[SIZE="1"]'63 2600 Touring Spider (AR 191437, the car that started the 2000/2600 International Register, reassembly in progress)
ex-'65 2600 SZ (AR 856043, the car in my avatar, sold as resto project to Austria)
Maintainer of a private 2600 SZ register (not the one in the Netherlands).[/SIZE]

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Hi Gigi,

That's a so nice info ! I'll contact them.

By the way, I tried to contact MALO spa (email sent) and ask for some parts or a distributor, no aswer for days now. I have the MALO parts number, and the parts are on their catalogs.
Do you have an idea where can I look for MALO parts ?

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let me know wich Malo parts you need.
Near my house there is an Automotive seller Malo authorized.

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Ex AR Giulietta SS low nose 10120.00091,Fiat 750 Zagato Targa Florio'57
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That's actually an outstanding link -- thank you, Gigi, for posting it.
I have a lot of link because i prefer buy parts to factory(if possible) rather than same parts to sellers.
Another example is an old Italian factory specialized in top quality Master,wheel cylinder production for our cars and also repair kit for oil and water pump.
Normally for 1900 is available on web only 1"(wrong)rear wheel cylinder while this factory produce the correct 1" 1/8 with 3 studs.
If someone is interested i can post link.

AR 1900 CSS'56-AR 1750 gtv'68-AR Giulia 1600TI'62-AR Brera 2.2Jts
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If someone is interested i can post link.
Yes, please do (here or in the "Parts Suppliers" sticky thread).

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[SIZE="1"]'63 2600 Touring Spider (AR 191437, the car that started the 2000/2600 International Register, reassembly in progress)
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