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post #136 of 925 (permalink) Old 01-22-2018, 10:09 PM
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Franco Ragni

Franco Ragni is the firm that produces all these originally, so they claim, see Alfa Romeo.
If you order from Italy anyway, you can go the direct way.
They also have all sorts of Touring emblems, just as we like it...
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Well, the news has arrived. Or, at least part of it.

Giallo Paglierino

No information avaiable on interior, but it gives credence to the existing black vinyl. The red carpet, laid on top of the rubber mats, remains a mystery. The same red carpets laid along the sills and trans tunnel appear to be original. I'm going to have to ponder that particular combination before slavishly recreating it. The museo offers no history on the interior, so I'm somewhat free in this regard.

I like the "straw yellow". A rarely seen color, particularly since so many got blasted with red somewhere along the way. Now to see if we can find a viable patch to match somewhere on the car before I have it stripped of all paint.

The original delivery point was Belgium, which matches the documentation I have. This suggests that I am, officially, the second owner, because Bob Fernald acquired it for resale under his dealer license. Yeah, I know. In reality, I'm the third owner. Just play along here.

Much has been done in the last week, but I'm laid low by a monster cold, and won't be in the shop for a day or two.

AFRA confirms they can provide the trunk script, with a 25 day lead time, plus new "spears" for the front fender sides.

Lots of motion. One more day in the shop and the rotisserie will be done. Right now, DayQuil/NyQuil are my best friends.
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Past Alfas...
59 102 Touring (first Alfa $500 running)
65 Sprint GT (2nd Alfa, $500 daily driver)
102 Sprint (never did anything with it, but wish I had)
74 Berlina (first new car - now certainly rusted into oblivion)
61 Giulietta Spider G-Prod Race Car (where is it now?)
84 Spider Veloce (rarely drove it, so sold it)
86 Quadrifoglio (Dull car - no more 115s for me)
1971 Montreal "The Full Monty". Fair winds and following seas

Current Alfas
59 102 Touring Roadster - restoration complete, enough Alfa for any rational man. Or irrational, for that matter
Oops. Add to the "present" list, 10204 01488, 2000 Touring Roadster project

And past...
Two 1946 Stampe SV4C (c/n 294 "Rocinante" - wife's favorite airplane. RIP), and c/n 235 "La Bon Temps Femme" (gone to a new home, but never forgotten)
Zlin 50LA (+9 -6 gees, titanium spar, 1200 lbs, 260HP rumored to now be in Brazil)
1946 Luscombe 8A
Starduster Too (recently spotted at the Nevada City, CA airport - over 20 years and an entire continent separating it from our stewardship in Binghamton, NY)
1955 Cessna 170B (wife taught me to fly tailwheel in this)

And present...
64 Mooney M20E ("Rambo". My faithful steed for over 40 years) Over 55 years old, and just returned from a trip to Argentina in him
Newest in the fleet
1967 Piper Super Cub on Wipline amphibious floats (a true "all terrain vehicle")
2010 Triumph Thunderbird


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Don,
My 2600 was merely listed as "Giallo" according to Marco F. I have several body panels that have this paint which I have polished. I can send you some photos. I do not know if my Giallo is your Giallo. It is also possible that I could 'lift' a small patch of paint and send it to you.
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with reference to your request we are informing you as follows.

According to our documentation files, the chassis number AR 192611 originally corresponds to an Alfa Romeo 2600 Spider (106.01) USA, disk brakes, manufactured on the 15th May 1964 and sold on the 20th June 1964 to Alfa Romeo Inc., Newark, U.S.A.
The body colour is yellow.

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Hello Don,

Did you try to contact Franco Ragni for your trunk script ?

From my point of view, Giallo Paglierino body always match with black interior and anthracite carpet.

This is the perfect color of Giallo Paglierino :

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Here's a sample......of ....Giallo Paglierino. It's very common in Kansas.
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Hello Don,

Did you try to contact Franco Ragni for your trunk script ?

From my point of view, Giallo Paglierino body always match with black interior and anthracite carpet.

This is the perfect color of Giallo Paglierino :

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I can send you a sample if you want
Yes, I sent contact info to Ragni, but no reply. Very difficult to navigate their website.

AFRA has quoted the script. Interesting that, in this case, AFRA was easier to do business with than Ragni.

Don P
Carson City, NV

Past Alfas...
59 102 Touring (first Alfa $500 running)
65 Sprint GT (2nd Alfa, $500 daily driver)
102 Sprint (never did anything with it, but wish I had)
74 Berlina (first new car - now certainly rusted into oblivion)
61 Giulietta Spider G-Prod Race Car (where is it now?)
84 Spider Veloce (rarely drove it, so sold it)
86 Quadrifoglio (Dull car - no more 115s for me)
1971 Montreal "The Full Monty". Fair winds and following seas

Current Alfas
59 102 Touring Roadster - restoration complete, enough Alfa for any rational man. Or irrational, for that matter
Oops. Add to the "present" list, 10204 01488, 2000 Touring Roadster project

And past...
Two 1946 Stampe SV4C (c/n 294 "Rocinante" - wife's favorite airplane. RIP), and c/n 235 "La Bon Temps Femme" (gone to a new home, but never forgotten)
Zlin 50LA (+9 -6 gees, titanium spar, 1200 lbs, 260HP rumored to now be in Brazil)
1946 Luscombe 8A
Starduster Too (recently spotted at the Nevada City, CA airport - over 20 years and an entire continent separating it from our stewardship in Binghamton, NY)
1955 Cessna 170B (wife taught me to fly tailwheel in this)

And present...
64 Mooney M20E ("Rambo". My faithful steed for over 40 years) Over 55 years old, and just returned from a trip to Argentina in him
Newest in the fleet
1967 Piper Super Cub on Wipline amphibious floats (a true "all terrain vehicle")
2010 Triumph Thunderbird


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Corner almost turned

If I hadn't been short a small piece of pipe, I'd have pictures of the car on its side. That'll be sorted today. My welds range from pretty to gawdawful, depending upon the accessibility, my limited vision, and whether my mig wire feeder was misbehaving at the moment. I don't really care. The rotisserie is not for show.

I've got quite a growing pile of restored components piling up, mainly due to the speed of my powder coater. The air-diverter is an aggravating little thing to take apart, but moreso to reassemble. There is only one way to insert the two cotter pins, and it's like having to use long tweezers down a narrow pipe to get them to bend over. Probably the job they gave the new kid, with the guidance that all he had to do was 20 units per week to keep up with the assembly line.

Hopefully off to the paint-blaster by the weekend....
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Past Alfas...
59 102 Touring (first Alfa $500 running)
65 Sprint GT (2nd Alfa, $500 daily driver)
102 Sprint (never did anything with it, but wish I had)
74 Berlina (first new car - now certainly rusted into oblivion)
61 Giulietta Spider G-Prod Race Car (where is it now?)
84 Spider Veloce (rarely drove it, so sold it)
86 Quadrifoglio (Dull car - no more 115s for me)
1971 Montreal "The Full Monty". Fair winds and following seas

Current Alfas
59 102 Touring Roadster - restoration complete, enough Alfa for any rational man. Or irrational, for that matter
Oops. Add to the "present" list, 10204 01488, 2000 Touring Roadster project

And past...
Two 1946 Stampe SV4C (c/n 294 "Rocinante" - wife's favorite airplane. RIP), and c/n 235 "La Bon Temps Femme" (gone to a new home, but never forgotten)
Zlin 50LA (+9 -6 gees, titanium spar, 1200 lbs, 260HP rumored to now be in Brazil)
1946 Luscombe 8A
Starduster Too (recently spotted at the Nevada City, CA airport - over 20 years and an entire continent separating it from our stewardship in Binghamton, NY)
1955 Cessna 170B (wife taught me to fly tailwheel in this)

And present...
64 Mooney M20E ("Rambo". My faithful steed for over 40 years) Over 55 years old, and just returned from a trip to Argentina in him
Newest in the fleet
1967 Piper Super Cub on Wipline amphibious floats (a true "all terrain vehicle")
2010 Triumph Thunderbird


You can snap roll an Alfa only one time...
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Don, That diverter is not supposed to be krinkle, but flat or semi gloss black

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Jay,

Both it, and the heat exchanger housing, had a slight texture. Yes, I'm used to seeing a non-texture here, but these two items, almost certainly never disturbed, were done with a texture. The one I've pictured appears more "wrinkly" than it actually is, probably due to the bright lighting. It's as close as we could get to the original.

Or perhaps you wish to claim that Touring did all of their cars rigidly the same?
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Past Alfas...
59 102 Touring (first Alfa $500 running)
65 Sprint GT (2nd Alfa, $500 daily driver)
102 Sprint (never did anything with it, but wish I had)
74 Berlina (first new car - now certainly rusted into oblivion)
61 Giulietta Spider G-Prod Race Car (where is it now?)
84 Spider Veloce (rarely drove it, so sold it)
86 Quadrifoglio (Dull car - no more 115s for me)
1971 Montreal "The Full Monty". Fair winds and following seas

Current Alfas
59 102 Touring Roadster - restoration complete, enough Alfa for any rational man. Or irrational, for that matter
Oops. Add to the "present" list, 10204 01488, 2000 Touring Roadster project

And past...
Two 1946 Stampe SV4C (c/n 294 "Rocinante" - wife's favorite airplane. RIP), and c/n 235 "La Bon Temps Femme" (gone to a new home, but never forgotten)
Zlin 50LA (+9 -6 gees, titanium spar, 1200 lbs, 260HP rumored to now be in Brazil)
1946 Luscombe 8A
Starduster Too (recently spotted at the Nevada City, CA airport - over 20 years and an entire continent separating it from our stewardship in Binghamton, NY)
1955 Cessna 170B (wife taught me to fly tailwheel in this)

And present...
64 Mooney M20E ("Rambo". My faithful steed for over 40 years) Over 55 years old, and just returned from a trip to Argentina in him
Newest in the fleet
1967 Piper Super Cub on Wipline amphibious floats (a true "all terrain vehicle")
2010 Triumph Thunderbird


You can snap roll an Alfa only one time...
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Turning the first corner

I've got things jacked up in the air, at last. I'll quickly fab the caster structure today, and hopefully haul it all up to the paint-remover-blaster tomorrow or Friday. We've got remarkably good weather (low 60s!), so spraying water-borne blasting media is not so miserable as it might be in late January. With any luck, the car will be at the body shop early to mid next week.

I got the left-right balance just slightly off, so left alone it tilts down slightly to the left. I got the high-low balance much better than last time, though. I can rotate it to this angle with one hand while fixing the stop-pins with the other.

The cardboard box is the first order of stuff from CA for this project. That's a little over $3,000 worth of stuff in that little box.

Why are Alfa projects and divorces so expensive? Cuz they're worth it.

Just kidding about the divorces. Not all all worth it. I'd rather she stayed.
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Past Alfas...
59 102 Touring (first Alfa $500 running)
65 Sprint GT (2nd Alfa, $500 daily driver)
102 Sprint (never did anything with it, but wish I had)
74 Berlina (first new car - now certainly rusted into oblivion)
61 Giulietta Spider G-Prod Race Car (where is it now?)
84 Spider Veloce (rarely drove it, so sold it)
86 Quadrifoglio (Dull car - no more 115s for me)
1971 Montreal "The Full Monty". Fair winds and following seas

Current Alfas
59 102 Touring Roadster - restoration complete, enough Alfa for any rational man. Or irrational, for that matter
Oops. Add to the "present" list, 10204 01488, 2000 Touring Roadster project

And past...
Two 1946 Stampe SV4C (c/n 294 "Rocinante" - wife's favorite airplane. RIP), and c/n 235 "La Bon Temps Femme" (gone to a new home, but never forgotten)
Zlin 50LA (+9 -6 gees, titanium spar, 1200 lbs, 260HP rumored to now be in Brazil)
1946 Luscombe 8A
Starduster Too (recently spotted at the Nevada City, CA airport - over 20 years and an entire continent separating it from our stewardship in Binghamton, NY)
1955 Cessna 170B (wife taught me to fly tailwheel in this)

And present...
64 Mooney M20E ("Rambo". My faithful steed for over 40 years) Over 55 years old, and just returned from a trip to Argentina in him
Newest in the fleet
1967 Piper Super Cub on Wipline amphibious floats (a true "all terrain vehicle")
2010 Triumph Thunderbird


You can snap roll an Alfa only one time...

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A good day in the shop yesterday. I got the roti mobilized on casters, loaded it onto the trailer (thank you JP!), and hauled it down to the DMV for the required VIN check.

The nice fellow at the DMV smiled, shook his head, and informed me the car had to be mobile on its own wheels in order to get his blessing. After seeing my extreme dejection, he observed that any "peace officer" could fill in and sign the form. Ah! Off to my Crossfit gym, which is about 50% cops and firefighters. 10 minutes later, and signed form in hand, and I was back on mission.

I spent much of the remainder starting the shop cleanup. A chop saw, hand grinder, drill press, mig welder, and air cutoff tool make a big mess when turning 2" square steel tube into a structure. Next will be to further organize the many removed parts into "needs restoration" and "ready to install" storage, and staging work spaces for several different types of restoration processes. It'll be nice to get my shop whipped back into something less industrially toxic, and more functional.

By the way, I received a nice note from Dave Rundle, the Aussie that restored 01481 while completing its conversion to RHD. The museum he sold it to for a nice price is offering it for resale. At $299,000 AUD! That's about $197,000 USD, presumably with "offers entertained". We can hope.
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Past Alfas...
59 102 Touring (first Alfa $500 running)
65 Sprint GT (2nd Alfa, $500 daily driver)
102 Sprint (never did anything with it, but wish I had)
74 Berlina (first new car - now certainly rusted into oblivion)
61 Giulietta Spider G-Prod Race Car (where is it now?)
84 Spider Veloce (rarely drove it, so sold it)
86 Quadrifoglio (Dull car - no more 115s for me)
1971 Montreal "The Full Monty". Fair winds and following seas

Current Alfas
59 102 Touring Roadster - restoration complete, enough Alfa for any rational man. Or irrational, for that matter
Oops. Add to the "present" list, 10204 01488, 2000 Touring Roadster project

And past...
Two 1946 Stampe SV4C (c/n 294 "Rocinante" - wife's favorite airplane. RIP), and c/n 235 "La Bon Temps Femme" (gone to a new home, but never forgotten)
Zlin 50LA (+9 -6 gees, titanium spar, 1200 lbs, 260HP rumored to now be in Brazil)
1946 Luscombe 8A
Starduster Too (recently spotted at the Nevada City, CA airport - over 20 years and an entire continent separating it from our stewardship in Binghamton, NY)
1955 Cessna 170B (wife taught me to fly tailwheel in this)

And present...
64 Mooney M20E ("Rambo". My faithful steed for over 40 years) Over 55 years old, and just returned from a trip to Argentina in him
Newest in the fleet
1967 Piper Super Cub on Wipline amphibious floats (a true "all terrain vehicle")
2010 Triumph Thunderbird


You can snap roll an Alfa only one time...
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That price range may be the "New normal". Fantasy Junction has a 2.6 for $215,000 1964 Alfa Romeo 2600 Spider by Touring

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Well Don !

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Jay,
Both it, and the heat exchanger housing, had a slight texture. Yes, I'm used to seeing a non-texture here, but these two items, almost certainly never disturbed, were done with a texture. The one I've pictured appears more "wrinkly" than it actually is, probably due to the bright lighting. It's as close as we could get to the original.

Or perhaps you wish to claim that Touring did all of their cars rigidly the same?
The discussion around the painting of the heat system seams to be a long sorry.
Like Don, mine (that I suppose they were original), was recovered with a slight texture. I assume it is asbestos fiber.

To respect as much as possible the original aspect I have made flocking :

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Don,

As you can rotate your car on any position, could you please send me some pictures of this area, so I could have my answer regarding the 2nd muffler.

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That price range may be the "New normal". Fantasy Junction has a 2.6 for $215,000 1964 Alfa Romeo 2600 Spider by Touring
Big difference IMO between a 2000 and 2600 Spider ... one ran an engine at the end of it's production life while the other a modern at the time straight 6.

Now of course that they are both very old cars, some may find the older engine more interesting ... but I feel the high prices for the 2600 is because they are becoming the cheap alternative to Aston Martin convertibles or Maserati Spiders for those that want to play but can't at that level?
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