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post #751 of 971 (permalink) Old 09-22-2018, 04:31 AM Thread Starter
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Yesterday I receive the brake switch ordered to an English spare parts car dealer.

I bought 2. One is with screwed connections as original.

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Things came back normal.

I hope the sensor will work more than 1000 km ...
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post #752 of 971 (permalink) Old 09-22-2018, 07:03 AM
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Wonderful !

70' Ghibli SSS (one-off - featured in Octane UK #183 + Octane Deutschland #38)
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64' 2600 Touring H-Top S.2
74' Montreal
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As the respect of the origin in the least detail seems very important to you, do you think you will re-spray the car as it originally was too now ?
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63' 2600 Touring H-Top S.1
64' 2600 Touring H-Top S.2
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16' 991 GT3 RS soon...
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"Danny", is the original colour very important for your ?
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Don't understand "your"...

70' Ghibli SSS (one-off - featured in Octane UK #183 + Octane Deutschland #38)
63' 2600 Touring H-Top S.1
64' 2600 Touring H-Top S.2
74' Montreal
66' Moretti 1100R
76' Fiat 130 Coupé
68' Datsun Roadster 2000 Racing...

16' 991 GT3 RS soon...
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"Danny", is the original colour very important for YOU ?
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I find the apparently personal snips to be unpleasant and not in keeping with the positive spirit of this BB. To be fair, it appears to be originated by Danny Wilde, and I have passed on my opinion to the moderators hoping they will take appropriate action.

Thus far,, the 1900-2000-2600 forum has been a delightful place. Disagreements over fact and opinion can occur, but it stinks up the place when it becomes personal.

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Past Alfas...
59 102 Touring (first Alfa $500 running)
65 Sprint GT (2nd Alfa, $500 daily driver)
102 Sprint (never did anything with it, but wish I had)
74 Berlina (first new car - now certainly rusted into oblivion)
61 Giulietta Spider G-Prod Race Car (where is it now?)
84 Spider Veloce (rarely drove it, so sold it)
86 Quadrifoglio (Dull car - no more 115s for me)
1971 Montreal "The Full Monty". Fair winds and following seas

Current Alfas
59 102 Touring Roadster - restoration complete, enough Alfa for any rational man. Or irrational, for that matter
Oops. Add to the "present" list, 10204 01488, 2000 Touring Roadster project

And past...
Two 1946 Stampe SV4C (c/n 294 "Rocinante" - wife's favorite airplane. RIP), and c/n 235 "La Bon Temps Femme" (gone to a new home, but never forgotten)
Zlin 50LA (+9 -6 gees, titanium spar, 1200 lbs, 260HP rumored to now be in Brazil)
1946 Luscombe 8A
Starduster Too (recently spotted at the Nevada City, CA airport - over 20 years and an entire continent separating it from our stewardship in Binghamton, NY)
1955 Cessna 170B (wife taught me to fly tailwheel in this)

And present...
64 Mooney M20E ("Rambo". My faithful steed for over 40 years) Over 55 years old, and just returned from a trip to Argentina in him
Newest in the fleet
1967 Piper Super Cub on Wipline amphibious floats (a true "all terrain vehicle")
2010 Triumph Thunderbird


You can snap roll an Alfa only one time...
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Sorry, my English is not perfect !!

It's a so long time that I got Toefl and Toeic !!

The pb is not me, but you.

You are always talking about origin, originality and so on. Not me.

So, was wondering why did you make a so deep, interesting and useful research for the least detail and neglected what's maybe the most difficult to change : body and trim colours, and in a least way, the engine, for example.


Your original Giallo Paglierino is a so rare and nice colour.

Grigio Grafite being as you do know my preferite. But on a grigio Grafite car.

70' Ghibli SSS (one-off - featured in Octane UK #183 + Octane Deutschland #38)
63' 2600 Touring H-Top S.1
64' 2600 Touring H-Top S.2
74' Montreal
66' Moretti 1100R
76' Fiat 130 Coupé
68' Datsun Roadster 2000 Racing...

16' 991 GT3 RS soon...
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"Danny",

It seems normal to me, if I have to put a seal on the plate lighting to put it on the original color.
The seal I found on my support was white, the one sold by some suppliers is white, so I reproduced a white seal.
Why would I try to put another color?

My brake sensor had to be changed. By searching on the English dealers websites, I find a screwed sensor for a few euros. Why should I buy something else ?

How can this be criticized even taking into account the color of my car (or anything else).

To come back to this color, this point seems to obsess you:
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if needed, that re-spraying the car in its original colour...
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t'es déjà pas en couleur d'origine (là c pas la même limonade !)
I translate: you are not in original color (this is not the same lemonade)
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As the respect of the origin in the least detail seems very important to you, do you think you will re-spray the car as it originally was too now ?
The subject of the color of my car is not new. From the first page I evoked my desire not to stay in original color.

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I already contact Marco :
The car was build in January 1960 to be send dirrectly to France.
The color is yellow "paglierino"

I'm not very found of this color.
A freind of mine have a 2600 T on this configuration and it is too yellow for me (I'll asck him some pictures).

If I put aside original aspect, my today best color should be Grigio Grafite.
Beige or Red interior
About a year ago, I asked for some advice on the color choice:

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Regarding the body color, I am hesitating between Grigio Biacca and Grigio Grafite. Any advice will be appreciated.
You even advised me to paint it in Grafite

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La couleur ----> L'origine.
Si c'est pour garder ----> Grafite
I translate :
The color ----> The original
If it is to keep ----> Grafite


Why this point is now becoming so critical for you that you point it out every time?

That's right, my car has 2600 brake discs and a lot of other things that go away from the origin: An electric fan, a 123 Ignition, Webers, ... a glove box like a "*****house"

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t'as fait l'intérieur de ta boîte à gants façon bordel. Ou cercueil. C'est selon.
I translate:
you made the inside of your glove box way brothel. Or coffin. It depends.


That's how I like working on these cars. As far as possible, make them more reliable or / and make them more efficient while keeping the original look that I love so much (Grigio Grafite is an original color). Who cares?

All these points, according to you, transformed the jewelery that I had into something less rewarding.

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Above all when they come from people who had a gem and made it a transvestite while restoring it.
(opposing "gem" to "transvestite" is clearly not very positive for transvestite : You agree ?)

Me, when I go down to the garage, I'm very happy with what I see. Telling me that, from the front registration plate to the rear one, I practically did everything by my own, gives me a great satisfaction. And finally, all your pettiness does not matter.

I am just sorry to see that this topic has, for the past few weeks, drifted towards something muddy. I am sorry for those who read us.
I try, most of the time, not to answer you, but you always come back for fight.

Let me share the pleasure I have in bringing this car back to life with my personal choices.

Accept my contradictions.

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The Montreal is undergoing its final Concours Restoration steps.
Do you think you will re-spray this "Concours" Montreal as it originally was ?

The original green is a so rare and nice colour. Much more than red (of which 80% Alfa are coated)

You see, it is easy and it does not bring anything to those who read us ...
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You have time to loose...!

I don't harass people w/ the least originality of the Montreal.

Do you make the difference ?

I even harass nobody. About any car or stuff.

Besides, I told several times that Grigio Grafite is a wonderful colour.

And the 2000T that's in Portugal will be soon of this colour.

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63' 2600 Touring H-Top S.1
64' 2600 Touring H-Top S.2
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76' Fiat 130 Coupé
68' Datsun Roadster 2000 Racing...

16' 991 GT3 RS soon...
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I find the apparently personal snips to be unpleasant and not in keeping with the positive spirit of this BB. To be fair, it appears to be originated by Danny Wilde, and I have passed on my opinion to the moderators hoping they will take appropriate action.

Thus far,, the 1900-2000-2600 forum has been a delightful place. Disagreements over fact and opinion can occur, but it stinks up the place when it becomes personal.
I second every aspect of Don's opinion.


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Sorry, my English is not perfect !!

It's a so long time that I got Toefl and Toeic !!
If this was meant in context of Don's comments, let me remind you of my comments made here about hurling insults at each other in French, and your follow-up post with a complete dismissal of accepting ANY responsibility.

I'm not not a moderator anymore, and I don't want to keep scores or take sides, but should it come to a decision about who should stay and who should get kicked off the board, my gut feeling says, in terms of useful contributions and/or posts that others can learn from (both now and many years down the road), the outcome probably would be about largely (more than 20:1) in favor of "PS70" over "Danny Wilde". Rather than letting it come to such a decision, I'd suggest cutting back on any words in any language that could be perceived as a personal attack, or aggression, or cynicism, or arrogance (or "I know better than you" ) -- in other words an attitude adjustment (mostly by "Danny Wilde") -- may help a great deal in keeping this forum friendly and constructive. So, gentlemen, please think twice about your choice of words before you post -- if only in context of "will I be able to stand behind it, or would it make me look like a fool?" 10 years from now.

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While waiting for the delivery of the stainless steel bar in 6mm, and based on the dimensions given by Don, I quickly made a trunk support in a piece of steel.

At first approach, the angle between the support face and the trunk prop is too acute. The crutch tends to flex.

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I therefore increase the angle at the pivot. The support is perpendicular, but once folded the crutch does not fall in the right place.

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So I reduced it a bit.

The result seems correct.

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While waiting to make the final piece, I put back the broomstick and I use my prototype ...

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Sorry to quote the Latin, but "There should be no arguing about taste!" Frankly, what bothers me about the terrible attention to originality is that most of those obsessively restored cars end up hauled to events in trailers and seldom driven. The only reason to have an Alfa is the sheer joy of being able to drive a car that responds almost to one's thoughts. That alone justifies and offsets the reality that they cost too much at purchase, require too much time to keep in top condition with astronomical cost for parts, have disappointing resale value (with the exception of some recently astonishing sales), etc. And if I someone wants to paint his own car blazing yellow with red and blue stripes and pink polka dots, what business is that of mine? And why does it make the car more or less valuable? Just so the car gets driven and enjoyed by the one who owns it. Good reason they don't come from the factory complete with a trailer to haul them around. Just get out there and enjoy them.
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