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Buying Alfa Romeo 164

Hello fellow members. I owned a Alfa Romeo 164L back in the 1990's and loved the car. I am thinking of buying another 164 on the used car market. I am trying to get advice from fellow owners as to anything I should be aware of or stay away from regarding years available, service and parts availability, models or other do's and don'ts. Thanks in advance. Steve
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Buyer Beware. It can be an addiction. I bought my first new 91 164B in Feb 1991 and still have two of them a 91 164L and a 91 164S. sold my B model in 2010. Unless you are a hardcore Alfa 164 owner and mechanic walk softly when thinking of rejoining our 164 ship of fools. This is the SofF's ship's captain speaking.

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Really liked driving my 86 GTV6, until I test drove my first 164, the 91S in 94. Still driving that darn (but fun) car today. Added a 94LS just for the heck of it. Quite different car, but still... it's a 164.

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1994 164LS (~Q)
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62 Morris MiniMinor 850, 67 Austin 1275 Cooper S (Downton 3/4 race), 64 Giulia Sprint GT (1st red one made), 72 Fiat 128 Sedan, 75 Alfetta Sedan, 78 Alfetta Sedan, 78 GTV, 81 GTV6, 86 GTV6
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I am thinking of buying another 164 on the used car market. I am trying to get advice from fellow owners as to anything I should be aware of or stay away from regarding years available, service and parts availability, models or other do's and don'ts.
Your question is a bit too general to get anything more than a general answer, like "buy the best one you can afford".

Are you looking for an inexpensive project car, or one that is concours-ready? Looking for transportation (think the earlier, 12 valve cars) or something higher performance / more collectible (think the later, 24 valve cars)? Do you do your own work or will you be paying a shop? If the latter, is the only shop in your area willing to work on an Italian car a Ferrari specialist who bills at $200/hour?

To answer your specific question about parts availability, it's pretty good. Alfissimo and Centerline carry most common parts. My generic auto shop can get a lot of parts through the same channels they use to source Nissan/Audi/Chevrolet parts. But plastic and other trim parts can be a problem.

Unlike the earlier, 4-cylinder Alfas, rust isn't a big issue on 164's.

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Thanks to everyone who replied.
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I buy from mostly from Centerline, Alfissimo, and DiFatta. All good suppliers for the 164 model.

And yes, zero rust on our 164s. Of course, to be sure, you would want to buy a West Coast car for that reason. Some rust has been seen on East coast or Midwest cars, alas. If there is because of the salt use on winter roads, you just have to be sure you can handle it.

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62 Morris MiniMinor 850, 67 Austin 1275 Cooper S (Downton 3/4 race), 64 Giulia Sprint GT (1st red one made), 72 Fiat 128 Sedan, 75 Alfetta Sedan, 78 Alfetta Sedan, 78 GTV, 81 GTV6, 86 GTV6
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Guess a lot depends on your locale. Here in Europe you can get a 4 cylinder like I have with zero frills or a diesel or a wide array of 6 cylinders. Get the best one you can afford and avoid rust, whatever that is. Ciao, chris

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Service history would help as you can be nickered to death with individual items. Check the shocks/struts and ESPECIALLY feel around for rust between the cap and seam under-behind pass door. if you feel anything, peel the trunk liner and look under alarm system for signs of rust in seams. Other than that and engine service items, usual stuff I think.
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