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post #31 of 59 (permalink) Old 07-01-2019, 09:50 PM Thread Starter
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Worked on a different Alfa this evening. I need to get it out of the workshop so that I can get this one in. Plus needed a breather from the irritation on this one.

I'll get back to it tomorrow.

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horsewidower: Sorry your Alfa's causing such stress-hang in there. Some ideas: if it's not your primary car then you can afford to step back, take a few breaths...maybe approach the situation thinking in terms of it being a challenging puzzle rather than a "problem"- a word that can automatically put the subconscious mind in a negative mode. I 'second' other's suggestions to research any error codes in the car's electronics, carefully check the simplest, easiest and sometimes the least likely maintenance-type items: does gas cap still function correctly (?,), are battery cables tight, any corrosion, good grounds for example. And check this stuff even if it was replaced, cleaned etc very recently. Only make/do/replace one item at a time. Someone said be sure to examine any air inlet ducting/hoses inside & outer surfaces. The inner walls could look fine at rest but with the lower pressure and flow rate of air when engine's running it can become a closed flapper valve. I've had friends that suffered this and had 'new' rubber fuel lines that looked fine but collapsed when engine tried to run. I had less than 100 miles on a brand new car that died trying to climb a busy, narrow mountain road- it would barely idle-nothing more. The brand new, original, factory installed fuel filter was completely clogged. Of all these ideas,
trying to keep a calm, positive frame of mind probably gets a person 90% of the way there. Good luck & have a safe, happy July 4th.
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Bob, anything going on here?

Did you feel either of the two earthquakes? Luckily, they were centered out in the boonies.

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Del, currently dealing with an ailing F350 for the Lovely Donna. Working truck always comes first.

The earthquakes are quite a bit south of us. I live in a relatively quiet seismic zone.


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Good to hear that you didn't have any effects from the earthquakes. We even get some from the earthquakes in Alaska. Our long skinny lap pool is a perfect "seismometer" of sorts, the water sloshing slight end to end when we haven't felt anything, as it is aligned pretty much north/south the long way toward Alaska. Weird to all of a sudden see the water begin to move back and forth all by itself.

When we do get a significant earthquake here, it really does slosh out the ends.

Yes, toys always seem to get set back, when necessary hardware needs resuscitation.

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This weekend I threw in the towel on the F350. AAA picked it up this morning and delivered it to the shop. Which means, I'll have more time to work on the Alfas, but less money to buy parts...

I don't know whether to be happy or sad.
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F350 is back, wallet is much, much lighter. But the Lovely Donna is happy...

Code pulled, 4444.

I still plan on cleaning a number of electrical contacts, pulling a plug to look at it, and installing the new fuel filter I purchased from Jason. I think, after changing the fuel filter, I'll fill the fuel tank, it only has 5 gallons in it. "The solution to pollution is dilution" in this case any lingering mal effects from bad gas would be further diluted by more good gas.

OH, and also do a fuel pressure test.

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You could also do the old fashioned thing of tossing in a can of the alcohol based water absorbing gas conditioner, as we used to do in the very old days. Although, modern gasoline with 10& alcohol content probably cures a water problem. Simple things. They never hurt.

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Now that's an interesting thought. Heet? Correct?

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Umm, don't know that brand offhand. Sure, whatever the label says I guess.

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Check the timing
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Yes, eventually, but simple things first, I would think, esp if one is not used to the 24V.

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Check the timing
Ignition or valve?

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valve. There is no ignition timing per se EDIT - what I mean to say is that ignition timing is not adjustable

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valve. There is no ignition timing per se EDIT - what I mean to say is that ignition timing is not adjustable
I was afraid that's what you meant. That can only be accomplished by opening the patient up, correct? I've got cam locks. If I need to do that, I might as well go ahead and do a belt change.

Unless...there is an easy way to check that I'm unaware of.

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