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Welcome CMS aboard the Ship of 164 Fools!

Here is base of his no-start 164QV thread:

https://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/gue...en-164-qv.html

Unfortunately not, but it's not the end of world...

It was basically about changing the ignition coil and crank sensor to correct lack of ignition.
This did not correct the issue.

But, today I found something that just might...
The coil in a relay was dead !
This is a first for me.

It is the actual thread in the coil that is interrupted.
The diode is fine.

It was with the red stripe relay under the hood just by the ignition coil.

Bosch number is 0332014112.
The component is named "MOTRONIC RELAY WITH DIODE" with name S12b in the wiring diagram.

Regarding crank sensors...
Is the gap between the phonic wheel and the sensor important ?
The manual explicitly mentions 0.5 - 1 mm, but gives no way of adjusting this.
The OEM sensor I bought resulted in 0.2 mm, so I put a shim made of aluminum foil between
the sensor and the bracket to get it up to just over 0.5.

Regards,
Carl Michael Skog
With key on do you get 12v in red stripe relay socket terminal 86 with pink wire from 15A F22 engine services fuse in G1 main fuse box?

Yes.

Ground is conveniently at hand on 85.

Further info:
As I said,the red stripe relay is dead. Normally, this relay is will be activated in start or run.
Even though, the relay I now have is broken, it turns out I can fake the relay function, by opening the relay and using a plastic clip, when I am in Run(on).

Which got me...
EXACTLY NOWHERE.
Still no ignition....

Regards,
Carl Michael Skog

CARL now go to top of 164 forum page and start your own thread on your QV, Is it a 12v V^ and what year is it?

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Yes. 12V on 86 in Run.

Ground is conveniently at hand on 85.

Further info:
As I said,the red stripe relay is dead. Normally, this relay is will be activated in start or run.
Even though, the relay I now have is broken, it turns out I can fake the relay function, by opening the relay and using a plastic clip, when I am in Run(on).

Which got me...
EXACTLY NOWHERE.
Still no ignition....

Regards,
Carl Michael Skog
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Yes. 12V on 86 in Run.

Ground is conveniently at hand on 85.

Further info:
As I said,the red stripe relay is dead. Normally, this relay is will be activated in start or run.
Even though, the relay I now have is broken, it turns out I can fake the relay function, by opening the relay and using a plastic clip, when I am in Run(on).

Which got me...
EXACTLY NOWHERE.
Still no ignition....

Regards,
Carl Michael Skog
post your own new thread at top pf page now. https://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/164-168-1991-1995/

https://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/new...newthread&f=16

Ciao, Alfisto Steve
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