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post #16 of 38 (permalink) Old 11-13-2017, 08:26 PM
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Thanks all. Any idea about shipping cost, Chris?

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Steve-- I found the writeup I did for the heater core R&R job. I'll attach it for you here, and hope it helps you out. Please note this is for a '94 LS, but I think the earlier 164 model would be very similar in this area.

I was mistaken in saying the AC was left intact... I did have to break the connections. Maybe someone else can guide you through this without having to do that.
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Dont recall with precision Mr Del. I simply put them in those flat rate boxes and mail. Something like 13 bucks no matter where. I sent one to Paul near SF, I think he is running it and can give some feedback on how it's doing. This may have been 2 yrs ago... Sqiers in Iowa got one too but again, I have not heard any more so assume all is good. Ciao, Chris

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Thanks. I'll think about it and let you know about getting one as a spare.

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Del-- as to your question on the all metal heater cores, I found this via Europarts for SAAB 9000. It looks very similar and maybe the same, as the 164 heater core:

https://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/520...RoCrMcQAvD_BwE

It is pricey, but when ours blew out it shorted out the wiper motor AND the cruise control module there behind the dash. Expensive and messy failure, it was!

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Del-- as to your question on the all metal heater cores, I found this via Europarts for SAAB 9000. It looks very similar and maybe the same, as the 164 heater core:

https://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/520...RoCrMcQAvD_BwE

It is pricey, but when ours blew out it shorted out the wiper motor AND the cruise control module there behind the dash. Expensive and messy failure, it was!
Taking into account the collateral damage caused by the failure, I will probably make this a spring time maintenance item, along with a rebuilt blower motor. Mine makes a minor squeaking noise sometimes.

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" Mine makes a minor squeaking noise sometimes"

There is an exposed bushing in the motor on the driver's (car left) side. Try spraying lube into that bushing to forestall additional wear in it. I do that about once a year just for that reason, having had to change the motor (with a SAAB unit) before I realized that the bushing is exposed and subject to contamination, etc.
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Thanks Del. How do I access the exposed bushings? Do I go in through the glove box?

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No, it at the left side of the car under the thin flimsy plastic cover behind the false firewall. Pull that off and dig down in the hole behind the 40A fuse block on the back side of the false firewall, aft of the 40A fuse block. You can just see the hvac fan motor shaft barely sticking out of the big black hvac fan/plastic housing, pointing to the left side of the car through the bushing (as I remember, the other motor bearing is a ball bearing, more durable, and someone devised a way to lube that as well but don't remember who now). I spray that bushing with a thin lube once in a while. Or sometimes I use 3 in 1 oil dripped on it. Some don't like 3 in 1 oil but it works for my cars I guess.

I have to do it again, been a while. That bushing is the big problem with the motor going out. It is a really cheaply made motor.
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Thanks Del.

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"Mine makes a minor squeaking noise sometimes. "

Besides the rear bushing Del is speaking about there is the front one, hidden, or not so hidden, read further. I don't do this any longer with the telescopic spout of an oil bottle, but instead with a thin wire, then let a couple of drops of oil or silicon+oil roll down the wire. This way you avoid over-oiling.

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/7335369-post22.html

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IIRC, having taken one apart years ago, that front bearing is a ball bearing(?), albeit a small one, not a bushing, and not really exposed to outside contamination, thus more likely to last a lot longer. However, having said that, thanks for bringing back your write up on lubing that particular bearing. Something I might try someday. Doesn't hurt to do this.

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Man, the Alfa BB is a wonderful place! That one really takes me back to the days of our LS.

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Man, the Alfa BB is a wonderful place! That one really takes me back to the days of our LS.
Did we do a meet and greet at the Keenland Concours and AROC convention?

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We sure did, Steve. I handled the hotel for that convention, in 2011. We had a fairly good sized group of BBer's there in the room, as I recall. And Alfa Romeo was the featured marque that year at the Concours, too.
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