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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-27-2017, 06:27 AM Thread Starter
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Glovebox Woes

I have always had trouble with my glovebox since I have owned my 95Q. The latch mechanism would will constantly get stuck with the latch stuck in the 'up' position with the glovebox closed. To fix this condition I would remove the passenger side air vent and pull out the wiring harness and connections and reach into the dash area and find a ring and thin cable. Pulliing on the ring and cable would open the glovebox. Well, last weekend I was going through this process again and this time it got worse. The thin cable broke when I pulled it and now I have no way of opening my glovebox and my latch is stuck in the 'up' position. I am tempted to drill a hole in the glovebox door near the latch in order to open it. Is there a better method to open my glovebox?

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That 95 164 with passenger air bag glove box is a different animal than 91-94 models.

Myron's 95LS glove box door was forever sticking closed. Brute force on lever and wide flat pry bar between top of door and dash usually made it open for me.

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Once you get it open I think the fix is to carefully remove material from the very points of the two spring latches so they don't hang up in the corresponding holes. My mechanic did this in the PDI for my car in 1991 before I put my plate on it. He was already tired of this complaint and the dealership had only delivered five cars by then!

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Well, I got it open. A large flat screwdriver, moving the latch up and down and pulling down hard on the glovebox door got it open. I removed everything and tried to leave the door a little open such that the glovebox light would go off, but I raised it a little too much and it latched again. I'll leave like that for now. Thanks for everyone's suggestions.

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Yeah PM me if u think u need a replacement. Pretty sure there's one in the stash somewhere. I don't use the darn thing myself like most of the bits since they are Italian fragile ( like don't let the wife use the sliding pass side visor mirror cause it WILL break) etc
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Yeah PM me if u think u need a replacement. Pretty sure there's one in the stash somewhere. I don't use the darn thing myself like most of the bits since they are Italian fragile ( like don't let the wife use the sliding pass side visor mirror cause it WILL break) etc
Bob his 164 is 95 with passenger airbag so glove box different that 91-94 models.

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Yep pretty sure (not 100% tho) that I have one if needed-//
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Thanks for the offer. Now that everything is out I will just leave it as is until I get the urge to make it better.

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Well...I got the urge to make my glove box better. I used large screw driver to open my glove box again. I took a look around and was able to see a few things. I believe my glove box is getting stuck because the striker/pin/bolt (blue circle first pic) slides past the metal plate (red circle first pic) and gets hooked behind the plate. The striker/pin/bolt is supposed to push the plate back which causes 2 other pins at the rear of the glove box to recede (faint black pin inside red circle second pic) and disengage with the glove box which will allow it to swing down and open. I am thinking that I need to adjust the location of the metal plate (not sure this is possible) or make the metal plate a little larger (maybe with some rubber that will not allow striker/pin/bolt to slide off the metal plate and get hooked behind the plate or apply rubber tip to striker/pin/bolt to make it larger such that it cannot slide off and behind metal plate). I cannot see a left side pin at the rear of the glove recede when I push in on the plate, but I can see the right side pin move in (recede) and move out.
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I forgot to ask about the plastic buttons and cords (first pic green circle). I am not sure where they should be attached. Anyone know???

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Easy fix. Did this to mine after getting tired of using the screwdriver method. Consider that the latch is pushed rearwards, not upwards when opening. Ir does NOT matter if you adjust the length of the rod as the problem is the rod will get stuck underneath the plastic facing on the latch plate. That's why it sticks. I wrote this up a year back and added pictures but here goes:
Open it. Remove plastic cover from latch plate. Rivet on a small piece of metal that extends DOWNWARDS at least 1/4 inch (as long as it clears the plastic opening), enjoy the rest of your day. Old write up is here. Hope it helps (and this is a 95 ls, not certain it pertains to all models).
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I forgot to ask about the plastic buttons and cords (first pic green circle). I am not sure where they should be attached. Anyone know???
They are just travel limiters to restrain the glovebox from straining its hinges by dropping open to its full extent. The strings on mine were cut early on in the cars life with no ill effect. Mind you I release the glovebox while supporting the door to some degree. I don't generally press the button and let the door drop completely unrestrained.

The ends of the cords should have plugs which insert into holes in the sides of the opening. They probably won't stay put.

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The 95 164 glove is different from 91-94 models because of passenger side air bag on 95 models.

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