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Alfa 164 24v oil cooler pix. This unit mounts on right side of engine radiator below headlight area.
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Alfa 164 A/T oil cooler

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All the time, I thought it was a transmission cooler. Guess I was wrong. But that does explain why my headlight area is crying oil!
The A/T oil cooler under air cleaner area on left side.
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Oil Cooler lines

Guys, as far as I know these lines are NLA. I took mine to a company called Pirtek (I think they are nationwide, they have a san diego location) -- Pirtek specializes in hydraulic lines repair (think construction heavy equipment). They were able to remanufacture my two lines for ?$80? total IIRC -- completely, totally stopped my dripping nagging oil leak in the auto car.

After a while, the OEM lines start to weep for whatever reason it seems

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HMM Oil or PS Fluid?

If its oil on the pass side, its probably the lines. If its PS fluid probably the rack. Get under there and squeeze the PS rack boot and see if theres fluid in there.

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auto or 5 speed?

racks are different auto and 5 spped; which car do you have?

Might be a good idea to update your signature line with your car info

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I doubt it really matters

I rarely use Sport mode, my car has 202K on it no transmission problems ever. Rarely do I get over 3K PRM but every once in a while I 'manually shift' the autobox to get the revs up north of 4K

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bought in 99

second owner, had 90 K freeway miles on it when I bought it.

No, my trans acts pretty tame, there is sometimes a bit of jolt upshifting into 3rd from 2nd, but its minor and no worse than most other cars I have had autoboxes on.

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Don't you guys know that Alfa's don't leak oil and if they do they don't leak much and if they do leak much it is the nature of the beast.

Drops on a piece of cardboard not to worry it is just an Alfa.

Now rivers of red or black oil you need to worry about.

164L rack for A/T with centering spring same as 164LS w/AT - less turning to right than to left as tranny case sticks out farther in left wheel wheel than 5- speed.

164S/164LS/Q 5-sd racks will work just need to not turn wheel hard right and wear out L/F inner fender liner.

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If your not having to top up the power steering reservoir all the time (your checking that right?) it's probably not too big a deal if it drips a little. You only need to worry when it starts pouring out the boot or your putting fluid in every week or something along those lines. It's an old car, but these things are pretty hardy for the most part. Many with lots of miles on them on this forum and I'm sure most drip a little oil here and there. If that is unacceptable, you might need to just sell it and buy something newer, because you could probably spend more than the car is worth just trying to have a few minor oil leaks fixed. That is not to say that you can't find cheap solutions, if you do the work yourself. My old engine leaked oil from the rear cigarette seals onto the exhaust down pipe and that was very annoying because of the smell. Made the car unpleasant at times. A rear main seal replacement did not solve it. Fortunately this replacement motor I put in several years back does not have the issue and that has been nice. Some things you can live with, others you can't (like when it affects your health).
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One of these days I would like to replace the LS rack with an S rack. Hate that oversensitive steering of the stock LS. After driving the S as a daily driver, I almost drive off the road overreacting with that LS setup for a while. I guess women like that light steering; however, if I wanted a Buick...

Speaking of Buicks, goats, I cannot imagine you not using the Sport setting with all those smooth freeways down there, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

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Del thats what

the 5 speed car is for! Hope you can come down sometime soon and check out our smooth freeways and on-ramps!
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How bad are the leaking really now?

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Yes, I still find fluid on that stick thing on attached to the cap. (It's like a brush attached to the cap of a bottle of rubber cement) And curiously, it still reads full or nearly full. I checked the transmission fluid and that looks fine as well. It is just a drip drop every couple days. Its quite disheartening though. I think I will be leaning towards a Lexus GS 450H if something explodes!
You can't have much of a power steering leak based on what you are saying.

Now what about engine oil cooler area leak how bad it that?

Sounds like you need to chill a little if it isn't much worse than steering leak.

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I really thing you are worrying about much of nothing. the car is over 15 years old and baby it is cold outside and best of all it is an Alfa Romeo so enjoy it.

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You think these leaks are something to worry about, you've never owned an older British car. My old minis could leak oil like there was no tomorrow, as they had the clutch between the flywheel and the engine, with a funky temperamental seal on the crankshaft to keep engine oil off the clutch disc. That seal would wear out and oil would drip profusely out a small hole (with a cotter pin in it to act as a wick) in the bottom of the bell housing. Oh, and of course, the clutch would then not work worth a darn. Much worse with my 125 hp Downton mini than the stock 38 hp 850.

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