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post #14056 of 14163 (permalink) Old 06-16-2019, 03:08 AM Thread Starter
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Finally started putting parts back ON my 164. Swapped the master cylinder today, MAN that drivers side nut is awful. Also my MC didn't want to come off, ended up using a pry bar and hammer to work it loose.

The brake fluid in there was BLACK. the reservoir, one side was like blocked up, I hosed it all out and now its clean as new in there. I think I'm going to drain the clutch reservoir as well as the fluid there is black too. When I put it all back together I assume I should fill and bleed the brakes first, then fill and bleed the clutch right?
You might want to take the time to see/read what it took me to rehab the rusty underbelly on my 164S aka BB2: https://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/1256011-post5.html

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post #14057 of 14163 (permalink) Old 06-16-2019, 05:24 AM
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You might want to take the time to see/read what it took me to rehab the rusty underbelly on my 164S aka BB2: https://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/1256011-post5.html
Wow thats nuts. Lots of good info in there thanks.

My Clutch master is fine, it just seems to not have had its fluid changed since the Clinton era. I have a turkey baster with tubing for the purpose of draining these things so I figure drain it all out, fill it and the brake master, bleed the brakes first (I have a Motive power bleeder), then bleed the clutch.

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Thanks guys! Sorry for the long absence. After I got Hefe back on the road I had major work to do on the Wagon and the old 98 Subaru. Of course in the summer the only problems are overheating (the wagon, which I'm sure needs a good engine flush and new radiator). He was having trouble with his seat adjustment switches - the back would recline (as I pointed out: great for car sex when you're young and agile enough for that, but not so much for driving) but not go vertical. He popped the switch cover, attempted to "prize" out the offending switch, blew the fuse - luckily Steve mentions on the forum how to FIND IT, he squirted down the contacts with that good contact cleaner, and seat responds nicely. Wish all things in life were so easy. I think we're going to have to do that with the window switches. They are just fickle.

Thanks for the links on the AC conversion - I remembered a lengthy, complete one - I may have even printed it out at one time. Yeah, I miss everyone - everything is totally fine, but am busier than ever. I am managing a USDA grant for a bio-char amendment to our wheat field soil, had to set up a new corporation to handle the money, and of course I program for our radio station (I am a music junkie) and may become the president of the board. And then there's house work and gardening.

So. Life is good! Body still obeying the brain. Will no doubt be back with observations, complaints, and questions.

How's life in Florida now, Steve? Didn't I remember your relocating there? Or maybe I was hallucinating...

Love y'all!

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post #14059 of 14163 (permalink) Old 06-17-2019, 04:49 PM
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Your opinions please.

Made the 160 km round trip to the muffler shop to complete the hangers. 2 custom hangers cost me $50 (cdn).
Still, this did turn out as planned due to some unfortunate misfires with the first muffler shop so the final tally, including 2 trips that could have been avoided, is around $280 cdn.
The MagnaFlow is definitely louder than stock, around 68 db at the rear.
Inside the cabin, the drone is a bit tiresome when accelerating up a grade. Mind you, the tips are not installed and the sound is bouncing off of the rear bumper skirt. I will be adding 2 tips myself. I am attaching images.
The tips are Audi tips and they have oval outlets and are offset-downwards. The muffler is slightly offset to the right and if I insert these tips with the offset to the left, they line up properly but the ovals are 90 degrees off. Not certain I like that look. If I insert normally, the right tip is slightly closer to the cutout but not in contact. One option is to cut the rear of the tip at the indicated spot (indicated by my finger) and reattach them 90 degrees so that I have the left offset of the tips plus oval outlets that are oval from left to right rather than up and down. That will also mean I do not have top drill new drain holes in the tip rears.
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post #14060 of 14163 (permalink) Old 06-18-2019, 09:50 PM
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Talked with Lino this morning down at Alfa of Tacoma. Almost all of the parts are gone, as yes, Centerline took most of them. He said twenty pallets of parts, plus exhaust systems, etc. He didn't realize he had so much. Lino wasn't all that happy with the price but it had to happen. They have two floors cleaned now, and several cars yet to go out. He said that people still stop by to get something done, the two hating to leave anyone by the side of the road. Lino finally did buy maybe his last "souvenir" Alfa, a 78 Spider. Wanted something for the remembrances, and they enjoy driving around in it.

We reminisced about our many years knowing each other, me first meeting him in 1964 at Abruzzi's Pizza downtown Seattle, where he first worked. Didn't know who he was at that time, but "officially" met him a year or so later when I bought Carlo's Alfa. And the fact that I knew his future wife years back in the local high-school.

He thought that the two of them had had a good life with the Alfa business, that really neither one of them wants to give it up but that things must change for the future. The offspring as usual not wanting to pick up the business, as usually happens with family run businesses/restaurants. Carlo of course will have his hobby storage building so that he can still fiddle with cars and engines at his pleasure. Can't run a real business out of there.

Not particularly Alfa related, but our very good friend who lives in Vancouver, BC now, married to a well to do woman, called to chat, and in conversation mentioned that they were looking to buy a new car, a new Ferrari 488 Spider. Either that or a Mercedes AMG GTR for half the price. Breaks my everloving heart. He is now living a nice life, and she is so sweet, even if she is a hard-nosed company owner.

I mentioned that they could test drive the new Giulia Quad, but she really wants a Coupe or the like. Didn't like any of the Lambos, and McLaren, etc, thought they were not them, too flash, lol.

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Thanks guys! Sorry for the long absence.... So. Life is good! Body still obeying the brain. Will no doubt be back with observations, complaints, and questions.

How's life in Florida now, Steve? Didn't I remember your relocating there? Or maybe I was hallucinating...

Love y'all!

V
Life is good for us in FL, too. Had a nice connection with Alfa and Maserati folks this past weekend. Todd [Stelvio/Maser Ghibli] and Kathy [Giulia]from Ponte Vedra near JAX organized a drive from the Ferrari/Maserati dealer in Orlando. ML and I met/joined this gang of 8 at the Citrus Tower in Clermont https://citrustower.com/
https://www.lakeridgewinery.com/
and then after lunch we went to Lake Ridge Winery. ML and another lady named Marie [Mini Cooper] in the group hit it off very well. They all came to Lakeland with us and stayed at the Terrace Hotel. www.terracehotel.com We had brunch with them there Sunday morning. Nice to make new friends here in Florida.

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Stuck with the normal placement of the Audi tips. The offset of the muffler works well enough with the spacing in the bumper. Cutting the tips and rotating the ovals 90 degrees seemed to be more work that value and the rear portions would have likely touched. Connected the tips with steel rivets. The addition of the tips did lower the internal noise level a bit and its now tolerable (for me, my wife....probably not for her as she is used to the "roar" of her Nissan's 2 liter). I did notice the annoying smell of hot oil so I still have a leak somewhere (surprise?) and the car seems slightly rough so I am wondering if one of my cylinders is not firing. Cleaned off front plugs Sunday (Will have a look with my spark check device later to verify all cylinders firing, though this will mean the removal of the rear cover...pain in the ***) while re-seating the valve cover to deal with a leak at the bottom-right. Perpetual trouble spot where the 1/2 moons meet the gasket. These were all new 2 years back, along with cig. seals and I did find some oil around the #6 plug. The same bottom-right trouble spot is persistent in Hyundai 3.2 liter v6 engines, so much so that they honoured an extended recall-repair on the gasket. In my case, this gasket was replaced in 2016 just prior to my purchasing the vehicle and it failed again, so much so that the oil ruined the alternator (exact same placement on the Alfa). I managed to talk Hyundai customer service into honouring another repair....the gasket labor and alternator, saved me at least $900 and many hour of frustration as it is a complicated job.
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Your opinions please.

Made the 160 km round trip to the muffler shop to complete the hangers. 2 custom hangers cost me $50 (cdn).
Still, this did turn out as planned due to some unfortunate misfires with the first muffler shop so the final tally, including 2 trips that could have been avoided, is around $280 cdn.
The MagnaFlow is definitely louder than stock, around 68 db at the rear.
Inside the cabin, the drone is a bit tiresome when accelerating up a grade. Mind you, the tips are not installed and the sound is bouncing off of the rear bumper skirt. I will be adding 2 tips myself. I am attaching images.
The tips are Audi tips and they have oval outlets and are offset-downwards. The muffler is slightly offset to the right and if I insert these tips with the offset to the left, they line up properly but the ovals are 90 degrees off. Not certain I like that look. If I insert normally, the right tip is slightly closer to the cutout but not in contact. One option is to cut the rear of the tip at the indicated spot (indicated by my finger) and reattach them 90 degrees so that I have the left offset of the tips plus oval outlets that are oval from left to right rather than up and down. That will also mean I do not have top drill new drain holes in the tip rears.
perhaps one could verify that the exhaust is hanging on rubber not touching the bodywork anywhere.

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Good point. The muffler shop is a specialty shop that deals with custom work and as he would not use rubber hangers. I wanted a front-rear rail type on either side so I could slide the rubber if needed and hook to the stock points but he made a custom hanger that bolts to the under belly (there is a rubber spacer) and a 2nd one that taps onto the 10mm bolt used for the heat shield. That could be the cause of some vibration at idle but I am going to check all coils and connections for leaks. The top of the plenum has some discoloration at the end of the intake rubbers and I may be getting some blowby. The would probably cause some roughness.
Have to remove the covers over the coils anyway so I will dry up the inner parts where the cig. seals meet and apply some RTV. I don't want to remove the lower gasket again as it will not survive.
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still have not found the picture I need, but in my search

https://drive-my.com/en/blogs/entry/...romeo-164.html

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Made a killing today on my b’day: bagged myself a near new copy of Pat Braden’s (bless him) bible for 13 quid + 2.80 for shipping! Possibly the best investment i’ve ever made?

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still have not found the picture I need, but in my search

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Interesting but where are these aftermarket Brembo brakes for the car they describe? As far as I know they don't exist.

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Managed to capture more of my alfa 164 temp guage craziness on video. When arriving home from work I noticed my guage doing its dance and quickly pulled out my phone and got it. The first video I posted didnt show much of anything but this one does.

https://youtu.be/PKBYP9ELHGI
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Took another look and both custom hangers have rubber blocks. The shop would not use donut hangers. Rainy day so no work on the Alfa but will re and re the plenum and check the rear bank for leaky seals.
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Managed to capture more of my alfa 164 temp guage craziness on video. When arriving home from work I noticed my guage doing its dance and quickly pulled out my phone and got it. The first video I posted didnt show much of anything but this one does.

https://youtu.be/PKBYP9ELHGI
Have you got a good ground of the black grounding wire at thermostat mid-housing?

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