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post #13996 of 14386 (permalink) Old 06-01-2019, 10:39 AM Thread Starter
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Went to cars and coffee at airport this morning and caught a 2019 Ferrari Portofino driver taking pix of my 164S.

He followed me over to my house for a show and tell with Mary Lee.

If I can get my cell phone pix to download I will post pix of it. He drove it over from Orlando dealership.
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post #13997 of 14386 (permalink) Old 06-01-2019, 11:07 AM
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Here in the Seattle area, there are sooo many Ferraris, and the like, no thanks to all the tech millionaires and billionaires, they don't tend to acknowledge mundane cars like Alfas, IMO (well, I suppose they appreciate very valuable vintage Alfas, lol).

I remember that years ago the owner of the local Ferrari dealership mentioned at a car show in town that he had sold ~80 Ferraris that year, and none were on paper, all cash. The reporter was agape (the mouth wide open, especially with surprise or wonder) at that comment.

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If I ended up with a bent one, I would straighten it back and then put a comparable rod or tube along side, held on with about four good band clamps. The thusly attached rod supplies the necessary bending strength so that the original but damaged strut will not buckle under compression load. Tension loads would not be a problem.

Agree that it might look cludgey but should do the job.

Seems like one might be able to make a strut from tubing with rod ends w/bushings, or just ball joints, kinda standard aerospace. And, there are companies which do make them, used a couple on a satellite I helped design years back.
The bent one wasn't so much a problem, after not finding one I decided I was going to have the machine shop just bend it back into shape and then take both with me next weekend to my next race and have my buddy box weld them on the spot. The ancient beat up bushings however were the issue, and there seems to be no replacement.

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Tried to order 3rd one but no shipping option would come up for two addresses I tried. Did you have a good shipping option that worked for you?
You need to email them, they will figure out shipping and then add the option for you. It cost me $37.50 for DHL express which should get here in 3 or so days. They had a $7 cheaper shipping option that would take 5 to 30 days, but I'd rather have them sooner than later and the price difference was so small it didn't matter.

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Take a look at McMaster Carr catalog, they have ball joint ends in right and left hand thread. I am not sure about metric threads, buy I wouldn't balk at using SAE threads down there, where nobody can see them.

In SAE, it wouldn't be too hard to make up the center piece length to suit, hexagonal stock and taps are available at McM/C also.

If you must have them in soft suspension, like the original rubber, then surely it wouldn't be too hard to re-cast the originals in medium polyurethane. as Beeton did with his engine mounts. My 2 cents, FWIW.
I agree 100% this could pretty easily be made, you just need to worry about setting up for the proportioning valve actuator, so you'd need to weld on some appropriate studs on one end of each to hold it in place, and keep the bushings small enough for it to go around. I was thinking more box steel or tube steel with 2 ends on it. Heck there are even websites that will make them to order for you.

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Just got out of the pool after early morning swim and ordered that new "3rd" rear suspension link from Clover Breakers UK. Email was the answer to get shipping link set up.

You know my motto. "You can't have to many spare parts."

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Yes, you cannot have too many spare parts. That's what I tell my wife when she looks in the garage with all the Alfa parts sitting around on the shelves, all tagged with appropriate info, and then shakes her head. Of course, I hope to never use most of them.

But then again, she has far more gardening supplies and books than I, so I guess all is fair.

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Just got out of the pool after early morning swim and ordered that new "3rd" rear suspension link from Clover Breakers UK. Email was the answer to get shipping link set up.

You know my motto. "You can't have to many spare parts."
Glad you got it worked out. When I emailed them originally they said their normal shipping calculator only works for US for very small parts. I guess these are big and heavy enough to trigger that not to work. Still overall it was very reasonable. With shipping it cost me less than the 4 lolipops I bought to salvage the bushings from.

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Decided to give the 164 a much needed wash. We had heavy rain yesterday and it turned into hail. Lucky the hail wasn't big enough to cause any damage. First wash with the new bumper installed. Glad to have a one complete bumper lol.
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Did a wax on wax off today to both BB2 and JGC Overland.
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RC got a battery today. About 80 bones at the local battery emporium. RC has been relegated to parking spot guard for the last 4 months or so. Life's gotten in the way. I am pretty sure he's going in for paint work at summers end but have not nailed down the deets as of yet. Life is good, ciao, chris
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Looking around for stuff, found this..

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...kbuster-video/

Dated OCT 18, so must already be on BB but in case not, here it is
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Sorta Alfa related today

Annual termite inspection day today. Willy the Termite Inspector Tech, originally from NYC, Boston and Miami and is now living near here in Central FL, turns out to be an Ex-Milano owner as well as a Jeep Grand Cherokee owner. Between him touring our house inside and out, crawling the attic and the crawl space still had time to talk Alfa stuff.

He just made it out of here just moments before our afternoon thunder boomer and cloud burst.

It has already dropped to a cooler 88F from 97 in just a few minutes. Thank goodness for A/C.

I had to add to can of R134a to BB2 yesterday to bring back the chill factor but is was a cool ride today to Rec Ctr, Wally World and the bank.

Did I ever tell ya'll how great retirement can be?

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Looking around for stuff, found this..

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...kbuster-video/

Dated OCT 18, so must already be on BB but in case not, here it is
Pretty good on both the 164, Giulia and the one remaining Block Buster store.

Considering Fiat built over 270,000 164s worldwide it still has to be a pretty good Alfa me thinks.
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Considering Fiat built over 270,000 164s worldwide it still has to be a pretty good Alfa me thinks.
I love my new Giulia TI Q4, but have no intention of getting rid of my 95 164LS 5-speed. But the 164 is in storage now waiting for some body work and windshield replacement.
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I thought the article showed the usual disdain for the 164. Was not particularly impressed.

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1989 Milano, Shankle Sport
1991 164S, stock
1994 164LS (~Q)
1972 Morgan 27

previously owned since 1964:

62 Morris MiniMinor 850, 67 Austin 1275 Cooper S (Downton 3/4 race), 64 Giulia Sprint GT (1st red one made), 72 Fiat 128 Sedan, 75 Alfetta Sedan, 78 Alfetta Sedan, 78 GTV, 81 GTV6, 86 GTV6

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I thought the article showed the usual disdain for the 164. Was not particularly impressed.
Im not sure I agree Del. They finish by saying neither car disappoints in any way and that both are driverís cars. The 164 is an old car now, so it is not going to be the same as a modern one. Having owned 14 Alfas, including two 164s though, I can say they are all different technologically, but are all driverís cars like no others, which is borne out in that article.

Current Alfas
2010 159 ti 1750 TBI sedan (red).
2004 GT 3.2 V6 (Stromboli Grey).
2008 159 TI Sportwagon 2.4 JTDM (Stromboli Grey).
1987 75 3 litre (red). My first 75 and now my son's.
2000 156 2 litre Twin Spark, ( Cosmos Blu metallic), my daughter's car.
2000 156 Monza Twin Spark, (Cosmos Blue metallic), sonís girlfiendís car.
1999 GTV 3 litre 24 valve V6, metallic black, (sonís new car).

Non Alfa
1988 Range Rover Classic Highline 3.9 V8

Past Alfas
1989 75 3 litre, written off by runaway van.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (black), now sold & living in Newcastle NSW.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (grey, sadly deceased due to fire).
1982 GTV 2 litre, red, (daughter's first Alfa)
2 x 1992 164s, (1 red, 1 grey).
2 x 1988 33s, (both red).
1985 GTV 2 litre, (white).
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