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post #13651 of 14380 (permalink) Old 11-06-2018, 09:04 AM
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My Alfa day...

Rode around Seattle in a new Guilia Quadrifoglio. Brilliant car. Was actually amazed at how quiet it is until turning to race mode. Hear that they are going to change the software so the baffles open in dynamic mode. Love how the old intake runners of the Arese engine are kind of rendered in high quality plastic. :-).
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post #13652 of 14380 (permalink) Old 11-06-2018, 01:57 PM
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I was going to replace the rear-pass side inner liner but it has been raining on and off and I still have to fix one hole on the front side of the wheel well. The car has plenty of rust-spray plugs but there is rust starting at the seam under the plastic watchamacallit you put your foot on when entering or exiting the car. I have to remove the pass side to have a proper look at the rust and may have to remove rear seat and the plastic trim pieces to have a proper look at the seam. This seems to be a common area with the 164 and I have seen a few with rust holes at the seam and up into the gas cap area. To remove the aforementioned watchmacallit, you have to remove the outer covers, twist the horizontal plugs 90 degrees either way, remove a few round trim caps that sit just under the rubber door trim, drill out all of the rivets from underneath and the whole section slides out. I am limiting today's action to having a quick look and spraying rust treatment into the cavity. Pictures attached.

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Ooops, pictures here. One shows the clip that has to be turned 0- degrees. Others sow hole and rust at seam.
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post #13654 of 14380 (permalink) Old 11-06-2018, 04:21 PM
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So far, doesn't look as bad as it could be.

Decided to detail the engine compartment and interior of the 91S this afternoon. After cleaning all surfaces (even the underside of the hood), and checking all fluids, used Armorall on all the rubber parts in the engine bay to keep them at least somewhat still ok. Still using the original S intake bellows from the AFM to the throttle. Used Armorall leather care on the dash, steering wheel, shift lever boot, etc. Looks pretty nice now. Will do the seats tomorrow (used Kiwi Scuff liquid a couple of months ago). Also tomorrow, will give the car it's several times a year wash job, lol.

Next week, the LS, inside and out. Then, eventually the Milano (alas, the wife won't do it, sigh, but to give her a ton of credit, she is really good at keeping our financial books in fine shape. I may look stupid, lol...).

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Well finally has gotten cold enough that we are expecting snow flurries tomorrow with snow over the weekend. Finally have the car at my brothers garage. While its here this will give me some time to work on her and take care of a few things. One of them being the power steering hose and will take care changing the timing belt. Never changed a timing belt on a 164 but shouldn't be to hard to do but I'll be reading Steve's guide for sure.
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Viva Alfa event Celebration, FL Nov 3

Eric from St Augustine has a S*** Hot REd 24v 156. Neville brought Jenny his 91L and Ralph had his 93L and I sandwiched BB2 my S between them.

We the 164 bunch were the back lot gang and all the "real" Alfas were farther up the street. About 50 some cars showed up for the event.

Ralph has removed the A/C POA valve in his 93L and replaced it with different looking straight through manifold with LP service port and a low pressure switch in it to give him colder A/C.
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some more Alfas, etc at event. Kit car was a GTM car with Corvette powerplant that an Alfa owner assembled recently in his garage.
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Finished detailing the 91S this afternoon. Looks pretty darn nice now. Of course, that won't last, as the rains have returned, and since it is the daily driver, it will get dirty again quickly until it's spring time detailing.

Now to look at the LS, but that shouldn't be bad, as it didn't get too dirty in the rain when we drove it to the Alfa convention in Olympia. Didn't make much difference, as almost no one there cared about a 164 anyway. I think that as far as the Alfa Club is concerned, 164s are basically forgotten Alfas. At least it seemed like it.

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Steve what's the story on the red 156? Did he import it Into the states?
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Steve what's the story on the red 156? Did he import it Into the states?
He got it from somebody in NY or NE that did. It had been in a crash and he rebuilt it after he got it.

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Steve what's the story on the red 156? Did he import it Into the states?
He got it from somebody in NY or NE that did. It had been in a crash and he rebuilt it after he got it.
Well the reason I asked was because current import laws require a vehicle be 25 years or old. If its newer than 25 years they would have to have the vehicles conform to current regulations. Regardless I love the 156 and someday want to own one!
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My blower stopped blowing today. Probably the fuse. If you think the 164 blower motor removal is difficult, try a Nissan Sentra. My wife's Sentra blower started to make a warbling noise last week. Finally stopped on Wednesday so I did some research into replacing it and:
Nissan quotes for removal of the dash for replacement of the motor as it is buried right in teh middle of the dash, not under the glove box as in many other cars. I was quoted $75 from a scrapper but none will remove the blower until you pay due to the labor and none were in a hurry to do it so I pulled one myself for $25. That took over 1.5 hours. Rather than the dash removal procedure, I went from under the dash on the drivers side. The gas and brake pedals had to be removed, a small black box for something or other, multiple plugs. Twist out the motor, scrape knuckles and curse. Install was another 2 hours as I had to remove the old one and install the "new" one. What a curse it was. By comparison, removing the 164 airbox and blower was easy and far less cursing was involved (try to lay on the floor of a car with both hands up into the dash). I am looking forward to getting the passenger side plastics off so I can inspect and repair the rust at the seam.
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Came to this site to find some cool Alfa stuff! Great site!!!
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My blower stopped blowing today. Probably the fuse. If you think the 164 blower motor removal is difficult, try a Nissan Sentra.
Yes the manufacturers don’t believe in making heater and air conditioner maintenance easy. The Australian delivered 75s are a pain to fix noisy or seized bearings in the blower motors. Just to lubricate the sintered brass bushes you have to remove the entire dash and console. It’s more than a day’s work. I never managed to summon up the energy for that on the seized one I had. I believe the US ones are easier.

As far as Alfa activities go, we are just enjoying driving ours and going to Alfa club activities. I am Vice President again this year and among other things I’m organising our annual display next April. Committee meetings are enjoyable because you are socialising with your friends as well as helping run the club. We have nearly 250 members so far which is great. There are some new Giulia and Giulietta owners who have joined lately. The racing guys are very active with two of them racing their 4Cs and another with a Montreal. The cub is in a very healthy position. We could do with more young members though. Cars don’t seem to be a big deal to a lot of young people these days. Some don’t even drive or are not in a hurry to learn. My generation couldn’t wait to get our keys to freedom. My kids couldn’t either and both love driving their Alfas.

My mechanical activities have been dedicated to working on my rolling restoration of the 1988 Range Rover. Ive finally got it running right with a new distributor, ignition module, coil, fuel pump and an airflow meter off a 3 litre Alfa 75 which just happens to be exactly the same as the one on the Rover. In fact it might be calibrated better. There is something wrong with the Rover one. The car wouldn’t rev and had no power.

Current Alfas
2010 159 ti 1750 TBI sedan (red).
2004 GT 3.2 V6 (Stromboli Grey).
2008 159 TI Sportwagon 2.4 JTDM (Stromboli Grey).
1987 75 3 litre (red). My first 75 and now my son's.
2000 156 2 litre Twin Spark, ( Cosmos Blu metallic), my daughter's car.
2000 156 Monza Twin Spark, (Cosmos Blue metallic), sonís girlfiendís car.
1999 GTV 3 litre 24 valve V6, metallic black, (sonís new car).

Non Alfa
1988 Range Rover Classic Highline 3.9 V8

Past Alfas
1989 75 3 litre, written off by runaway van.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (black), now sold & living in Newcastle NSW.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (grey, sadly deceased due to fire).
1982 GTV 2 litre, red, (daughter's first Alfa)
2 x 1992 164s, (1 red, 1 grey).
2 x 1988 33s, (both red).
1985 GTV 2 litre, (white).
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post #13665 of 14380 (permalink) Old 11-15-2018, 02:06 PM
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Passed my last CT emissions test today. Tester said it was perfect and by the time for the next emission testing the 164 LS will be exempt.

Another milestone for the car.

1994 164 LS 5 Speed
1988 Milano Verde 5 Speed
1960 Giulietta Spider
1959 Giulietta Sprint

1965 Giulia Spider [parts car now]

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