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post #11491 of 14050 (permalink) Old 08-20-2017, 05:37 PM Thread Starter
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Crank is back. More details at "so now the starter has to come out" thread.

Fingers crossed but much, much happier today than yesterday (regarding the Alfa).
Green corrosion is not your electrical connector friend is it.

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post #11492 of 14050 (permalink) Old 08-20-2017, 05:43 PM Thread Starter
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Made room for BB4 gonna soon to BE to come back home next week after body and paint work.

I drained/flushed/filled coolant on Sara's inherited from grandfather's estate the 02 Taurus.

Couple weeks ago I changed last two lower motor mounts on same car.

She starts grad school tomorrow night and will not drive BB1 the 164L to night-school parking lots for safety of BB1.

Buster and I did take a real estate tour in BB2 early this morning pictures on 164 pix sticky above.

Communicating with current owner of BB3 who I sold it to last year about this time in August. He appears to have seized the engine.

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Making slow daily progress...today I removed the oil filter, remove wires from starter, tested starter with power from a spare battery directly to the starter to convince myself this really has to be done. It does, but the solenoid works really well! A shame nothing else happens Removed upper starter bolt. Call it quits.

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Making slow daily progress...today I removed the oil filter, remove wires from starter, tested starter with power from a spare battery directly to the starter to convince myself this really has to be done. It does, but the solenoid works really well! A shame nothing else happens Removed upper starter bolt. Call it quits.
So, solenoid works but not starter? Unfortunate it isn't the spade or wire. I will be doing mine over the winter as I expect the connector issue to become problematic eventually. I wonder if replacing bolts with studs and nuts is a good long-term alteration. May make future removals easier.
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Buttoned-up the '88 Spider and did a couple of shake out runs around the neighborhood. No leaks.
Just need to re-install the coolant overflow tank after media blasting the brackets and re-plumb the windshield washer.

Nice to have it back among the living again.

Richard's Giulietta is moving slowly. Installed the spin-on adapter and worked on fitting the wiper motor. This week will size the generator/WP belt and see about getting the headers to fit.

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Also.....

My '57 is getting primed this week.
The fabricator has finished the body and is working on the doors. He found a lot of lead, but overall, in good condition.

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Went to the Rolex Monterey Motorsports

Went to the Rolex Monterey Motorsports Reunion at Laguna Seca in Monterey California on Friday 8/18. 2.5 hours from my house.

Plenty of GTAs.
Spotted a roundtail racer!!!
Alfa Romeo had new cars to check out and free keyfobs.
Had a great time seeing the vintage racers run.
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Got the starter out today. I'm picking up some Walker 35959 Acoustic Seal exhaust seal tomorrow to glue the cloth back on the heat shield

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Be careful! That "cloth" may be asbestos...

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Be careful! That "cloth" is asbestos...
It looks more like fiberglass matting on the 164.

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Finished up a drive from eastern Oregon from our roundtrip there and back in the LS, which ran flawlessly. Once again convinced both of us that an automatic tranny Giulia would not be the same at all.

Had headed south before to see the "Great American Eclipse". Ended up at a rest stop down near Durkee pretty much on the centerline of the totality band, on I84 (south of Baker City) to see the totality on the morning of the 21st. The rest stop was totally jam packed with cars and campers parked on the gravel side roads on either side of the highway.

The eclipse was absolutely spectacular. Have seen partial eclipses, but this was the first totality. Trust me, a partial is nothing like totality. When the sun finally turned black (so to speak as the moon covered it completely), the solar corona popped out brilliantly, everything eerily going dark, Jupiter glowing brightly in the dark sky, not a car on the highway, just some semis with their lights on. Traffic on the highway wasn't bad afterwards except just south of Baker City on the northbound return trip, where they had one lane closed for construction in two places. Long lines there, otherwise 75-80 mph.

Next US total eclipse will be in 2024 running from Texas to New England. Hope to see that as well. Have already booked our stay with Barb's bro in Hartford (Vernon), lol. Total eclipses are NOT to be missed, they are that spectacular, all two minutes of the totality.

Drove to Enterprise and Joseph to see that area after first seeing it in the early 70's. Very pretty, with the Wallowa mountains backing up Joseph. Trouble was, there was heavy forest fire smoke in the air from fires in central Oregon blocking much of the viewing. It had been perfectly clear for the eclipse the day before.

Did have a chance to stop in and visit Virginia (Veronica) and Gary in Athena, Oregon, out in wheatland country. Great and interesting well traveled couple. They did have a couple of interesting friends visiting from the Czech Republic. That part of Oregon is nice looking land, but not much there except grain fields and an occasional little town. They are still getting set to do the clutch job on their 164. Always welcome in Seattle if they can make it up that far.
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Sounds like a nice trip, Del. A coworker went south to view it and it sounded like a neat experience. We even enjoyed the partial viewing in the work parking lot.

Saw a Giulia Quadrifoglio across the street from the office today. That is a sharp looking car. I liked the base I saw a few weeks ago, but this thing was nice!

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Matter of fact, we did see a new blue Giulia just south of Athena, out in farm land, heading south, turning into the Wildhorse Resort Indian Casino, lol. Must have had money yet to burn after buying that Giulia.

We waved as we passed them as they were just putting along but they didn't seem to recognize the LS. No response, nada. We figured that it was probably typical of many who are buying that car, it evidently being just a BMW style bling car to them. Oh well.

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We had a partial in my area (about 40 minutes north of Toronto) so only 70% totality. My son viewed through welder glass and I through my camera and 720nm filter. I took these and converted to B&W for better clarity and to reduce glare.
As for Alfa, I took off the auto tranny selection bracket and handle. Viewing image, you need a 10mm and 13mm wrench. A 13mm socket will also work on the large bolt and you have to hold down the bolt side to loosen the locknut.
There is a 10mm under the bracket. Hard to get to but using a 10mm and incremental movements will loosen it enough for you to remove with twisted fingers.
The bracket was broken at 2 ends and only one end of the plastic was in tact. The toothed-notched part has plastic on either side. These are not for strength but for spacing and smoothness as they slide between a Teflon or plastic spacer and the plunger arm.
I had to remove the plastic by cutting along the seam where they are joined. I brazed the metal together (but they did warp a bit) and glued the plastic back on. Only one side as it had become a bit too wide so the thinner side was removed. The thicker side slides along the teflon spacer that the pin is threaded through. The other side has an 8mm locking nut. This pin is pushed down to clear the teeth when selecting and pushes back up to lock into the selection tooth.
The round gimball (I thin) is held on by a locking pin.
When installing, grease the side of the plastic that runs against the teflon and grease the 13mm bolt (needle bearings in the black arm sleeve). Attach 13mm bolt first (you will need needle nose pliers to fit that through as hand space is really tight) and then the upper 10mm but do not tighten. Position and hold down the bracket to line up the lower 10mm bolt and holes. Twist it in a few threads with your fingers then use the 10mm and then tighten the other 2. DO NOT forget to position the P switch properly.
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Today I drove the GT into town to buy a new rear donut and rear engine mount for the black 3 litre 75 from one our two Alfa parts shops. It was a joy as usual. I love the acceleration and the sound of the 3.2 Busso with the cat-back exhaust. In the evening we went to a Nepalese restaurant for dinner with my wife's school staff. The food was superb. I came home in the 159, having gone there in my daughter's partner's Ford Falcon XR6 turbo. Our daughter has been relief teaching at my wife's school, so she was counted as staff. She has even taken my wife's classes when she was away sick. She is in high demand there and in her old high school which is nice. So it was a good Alfa day in here in Adelaide.

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2010 159 ti 1750 TBI sedan (red).
2004 GT 3.2 V6 (Stromboli Grey).
2008 159 TI Sportwagon 2.4 JTDM (Stromboli Grey).
1987 75 3 litre (red). My first 75 and now my son's.
2000 156 2 litre Twin Spark, ( Cosmos Blu metallic), my daughter's car.
2000 156 Monza Twin Spark, (Cosmos Blue metallic), son’s girlfiend’s car.
1999 GTV 3 litre 24 valve V6, metallic black, (son’s new car).

Non Alfa
1988 Range Rover Classic Highline 3.9 V8

Past Alfas
1989 75 3 litre, written off by runaway van.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (black), now sold & living in Newcastle NSW.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (grey, sadly deceased due to fire).
1982 GTV 2 litre, red, (daughter's first Alfa)
2 x 1992 164s, (1 red, 1 grey).
2 x 1988 33s, (both red).
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