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post #1 of 59 (permalink) Old 10-24-2012, 07:04 AM Thread Starter
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Sensational find in Sweden!

What is believed to be the only surviving Alfa Romeo, Stanga trolleybus in existance has been found in Sweden, where it ran until 1955. Stockholm bought ten of these in 1950.

The last six meters of the bus is currently misding, but are believed to exist some 15 miles away from where my brother found the bus last tuesday!

Any informatipn about existin AR buses much appreciated.

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Wow! You may want to post this in the "Alfa Trucks, Buses, Marine..." forum to get more exposure/replies. Good luck with the resto and keep us up to date!

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check with zagato olaf on this board as there is a fine book available on these.
Otherwise, the dutch Alfa Club SCARB did an article on these I believe 2 years ago!

Cool!!!!!

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Filobus

Perhaps contacting Ansaldo29
would be a good idea as his group is already engaged in restoring a Montevideo Filobus.
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check with zagato olaf on this board as there is a fine book available on these.
Otherwise, the dutch Alfa Club SCARB did an article on these I believe 2 years ago!

Cool!!!!!

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That was a little longer ago

No. 104 from the 4th quarter of 2003:



The Swedish Alfa Romeo bus would be a AR 140 AFS4.

The F stands for Filobus (trolleybus), S is for Snodato (flexible or articulated) and I suppose the 4 is for four axles.

The article was written by Patrick Italiano.

Another bus specialist among the AlfaBB members is Alfa_Japan.

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AMAZING Found this in Sweden!





The last remaining Alfa Romeo Filosnodato has been found in Sweden.

Stored outdoors since 1955, it is still reasonably sound, and possible to restore. Stockholm bought ten of these in 1950, and retired them in 1955, when the line was converted to diesel.

The bus is now stored indoors, and will not be scrapped, as was the intention when my brother found it outside a scrapyard, just minutes before it was destryed.

Anyone with any knowledge of AR buses, please contact me!

The search has started for the rear end.

The reason why the bus survived is that is was sold to a summer camp in 1955, used as a dorm until 1981, when it dissapoeared, right before the second attempt to save it was made.

More info will come

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I'm confused. Why is the rear end missing? Looks all there to me.

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The Swedish Alfa Romeo bus would be a AR 140 AFS4.

The F stands for Filobus (trolleybus), S is for Snodato (flexible or articulated) and I suppose the 4 is for four axles.
The tail section w/ one axle is missing.

What a cool find. Hope the rear piece shows up as well ....
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The tail section w/ one axle is missing.

What a cool find. Hope the rear piece shows up as well ....
So is an articulated or bendy bus?
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Yes, see this picture.

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Being a trolley bus and with the pantograph mounted on the rear half, it does make finding that part kind of helpful doesnt it! Cool find though.

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Searching for more details I ran into this old railway movie. One of the freight trains is carrying an AR 140 AFS/4:


See it go by at 15:30

Wheels and trolley poles are dismounted (low tunnels?). The color scheme differs from that in other pictures. A first delivery for testing purposes?

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Thank You for the info!

I immediately went to the place where the picture was taken, but no trace of the bus, or any information of its whereabouts



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I immediately went to the place where the picture was taken, but no trace of the bus, or any information of its whereabouts
An interesting detail is that the narrow track visible on the left in the video has been removed since. Was it a tramway and was the bus there to replace it?

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No, the video is from the tracks between Norrköping and Örebro, about 120 miles from Stockholm.

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