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Earlier 105 OE Wheel Color

I did a search and there are several threads on this so I did not know which one to post in so here's a new post. Authors of those posts can link to this if they desire.

I did a paint spray-out sample of 7 commonly available wheel paints. One reason was to start to find the definitive OE color (ha!**) as well as experiment with other colors that might be interesting to try for a more modified car.

One of those threads touted BMW Polaris Silver. I could not find Polaris Silver, perhaps a paint shop custom mix. But in some thread I recall a color Argent Silver was mentioned. I tried some darker colors in addition to silvers as well.

It turns out that the Argent Silver was the closest match - so far - to an earlier 105 OE wheel color. An assembly of long-time Alfisti at CNC agreed. It's a semi-flat silver with no metallic flakes. The paint name is OER HP Wheel Argent Silver. I got it at Summit Racing - LINK.

I compared to my original never molested 69 spider spare tire still mounted with the original CA-67. I have never seen the bright metallic flake paints on old original Alfa wheels that are commonly available in paints and aftermarket wheels today. Certainly not clear coated.

I have space at the top of the spray-out panel if anyone has a readily available paint to add.

** Just as with body colors I imagine that there was a lot of variation with different wheel and paint manufacturers, batches, and over time.
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The early formulation of Mercedes Astral Silver with two sizes of metal flake, one extra fine, seems consistent with Italian silver paints in that it has a slight champagne hue that is similar to Italian clear coats getting a golden sheen when they age as on Ferrari SWB .... just a hint of it. Also think 1974/74 Ducati 750SS ...
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Is this generally available (where), or a special purchase or custom mix?
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I don't think the old astral silver is available other than custom mix. Glasurit used to have both in their book - new and old. I suspect the newer one is available from MB and other suppliers but it doesn't quite look right - shade is good but metal flake is too big.

BTW your argent panel looks good ...

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Some of these other colors look fantastic, like the graphite metallic on a white car's wheels for contrast, or the stainless with a hint of bronze. The magnesium is a shade darker than the 3 silvers and with less sparkle. May do that on the Campy Americas. My "go to" up to now has been the Rustoleum HP Wheel Silver as it is a shade lighter than the Duplicolor. Unlike other R/O products, it dries quickly. But the Argent Silver will be my choice for an OE early 105 look.
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105 series OE Steel Wheel Color

Thanks All so much for the varied postings. I will go with the Argent (satiny) silver or as a backup the early BMW Polaris silver from PPG...depends on what is actually available at the trigger-pulling moment.
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Original steel wheels on my August-production '65GT, pretty true color rendition.

But of the original 5, not all are identical (aging?).

Thanks for the comparison.

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I've had several silver shades on my white TI and the
One that looked best was Jaguar Rhodium Silver. Not rattle can quality, for sure.

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Just for kicks I did a Bing search for Polaris Silver and got one hit for paint on e-Bay. It was a vintage small spray can of BMW official Polaris Silver touch-up paint for $27. The OER Argent Silver paint is pretty flat. I might do a satin or semi-flat clear coat to make it easier to clean brake dust off.
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Eastwood has an argent silver wheel paint that is very close to the original color. Unfortunately it's only available in aerosol cans, and not quarts. A great cost effective approach to correctness.

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Wurth White Alloy Wheel Paint - 0893339006
Have heard good reviews on this wheel paint, but have not tried it.
Some use it on old BMW motorcycle cast Al. motor parts.

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105 OEM Wheels - Respray with BASF

Hello All,
I recently had my GTV1750 OEM wheels, sandblasted and resprayed. the shop uses BASF and I chose this two stage process.
First stage is the color coat (base coat), second is a clear top coat. Both were made by RM which is one of the BASF product lines.
Color: RM Onyx HD Waterborne, color code 060.
The Clear coat is an RM Urethane.

Now, to muddy the water a bit - system also shows codes for another line made by BASF called Glasurit. Their waterborne base coat is called Glasurit 90 Line, and that code is also 060. Glasurit calls it Polaris Metallic, and shows it as a BMW body color used from 1969 1974. There are other BMW colors called Polaris Metallic (and also New Polaris Metallic) which were used on different model years.

In any event, my wheels look great!
I'll post photo's of the wheels on the car when it hits the ground.
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Update to this thread, as I'm urgently researching the correct shade for early 105 steel wheels (Fergat). Glasurit #060 is something I can only obtain by special order (120/litre) so I am looking for alternatives.

Questions:

Does anyone have a list of equivalents for Glasurit 060?

Is Glasurit 060 known as 'Imola Polaris Silver' or just 'Polaris Silver'? There seem to be a number of variants, according to the various tables that are available to view online.

Mercedes Astral Silver, as mentioned by Alleggerita, seems to be an alternative but is obviously brighter than Chuck's original wheel finish (which may have slightly yellowed with age, admittedly). Is #735 the 'earlier code' of Astral Silver? Whose code is that? If a Mercedes-Benz code, what are the commercial equivalents?

How does #735 compare to Glasurit 060?

Superfine flake or no flake?

Lacquer? If so, is a satin coat or a gloss coat more original? Or a gloss coat with a % of matting agent? I'm guessing these were originally a single-stage baked finish with no top coat applied?

I have also been reading about Wurth silver wheel paint, which is more of a DIY approach but apparently the quality of the spray nozzle is superb. Anyone used this? Which lacquer did you use afterwards?

All good information, advice and tips would be welcomed!

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FWIW, painting wheels is a bit of an art. The trying to get the deep profile leads to runs and/or overspray "fuzz". An airbrush would help over a rattle can. I do one side at a time. Why? Overspray through the holes deposits on the other side and makes overspray "fuzz" or spatter. I mask all the holes from the opposite side, finish one side, and mask the other side, and spray the 2nd side. A fine particle and semi-flat or satin finish appears to be right. Too glossy is a dead giveaway of modern.
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FWIW,............... A fine particle and semi-flat or satin finish appears to be right. Too glossy is a dead giveaway of modern.
Agree about the color, but after having refinished the wheels several times there is an advantage of a modern powder coat, they are SO easy to clean....the dust doesn't adhere, a moist paper towel will do.
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