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Old 02-23-2008, 07:43 PM
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110 Horse power for 140mph

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That has been confirmed! Not trying to start any flaming wars, but as I learned today, it only takes 110 horses for a top speed of 140mph in the Alfa. Real world experience, not CD drawings, computations, etc...tested and proven.
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Old 02-23-2008, 08:18 PM
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LOL, transaxle in a RWD Alfa, you gotta be kidding me!!!!!
I can't believe I'm going to jump in to another one of these, but..

DD, how on earth can you dump on people, then make quotes such as the above? You really need to take a peek under the rear of an Alfetta, GTV6, or Milano. Then you should apologize to the guy you're dumping on.

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Old 02-23-2008, 08:22 PM
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I dont want to spark anything back up, I just want to know when I mistaked a 164 for a Milano, or vice versa. If anyone wants to search my post or something, and find my error, I would feel better I guess lol. I have looked, looked, and looked some more, and have found no evidence of it.
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I dont want to spark anything back up, I just want to know when I mistaked a 164 for a Milano, or vice versa. If anyone wants to search my post or something, and find my error, I would feel better I guess lol. I have looked, looked, and looked some more, and have found no evidence of it.
Only to that I appologize, apparantly, you were guiding a member on wether they should buy a 164 or Milano and considering you never owned either, you have not the breath to waste.
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I can't believe I'm going to jump in to another one of these, but..

DD, how on earth can you dump on people, then make quotes such as the above? You really need to take a peek under the rear of an Alfetta, GTV6, or Milano. Then you should apologize to the guy you're dumping on.

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LOL, transaxle in a RWD Alfa, you gotta be kidding me!!!!!
David -
Far-be-it for me to jump in here, but it seems that you are wrong, (I know that is hard to believe). I do not place TOTAL trust in Wikipedia, but in this case I was intrigued. I was not at all surprised to read the following introduction. What it did also 'confirm' (as only Wikipedia can) was that one of your beloved RWD Chevrolets has a transaxle.

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A transaxle, in the automotive field, is a component that combines the functionality of the transmission, the differential and the drive axle into one integrated assembly. Transaxles are near universal in all automobile configurations that have the engine placed at the same end of the car as the driven wheels: the front wheel drive, rear-engined and mid-engined arrangements.

Many mid and rear-engined vehicles use a transverse engine and transaxle, similar to a front wheel drive unit. Others use a longitudinal engine and transaxle like Ferrari's 1989 Mondial t which used a "t" arrangement with a longitudinal engine connected to a transverse transaxle, a design the company continues to this day.


[edit] FR transaxles
Front engine, rear wheel drive vehicles tend to have the transmission up front just after the engine, but sometimes a front engine drives a rear-mounted transaxle. This is generally done for reasons of weight distribution, and is therefore common on sports cars. Another advantage is that the driveshaft has only to endure the torque of the engine instead of that torque multiplied by the 1st gear ratio. This design was pioneered in the 1950 Lancia Aurelia, and was conceived by the legendary Vittorio Jano. Since this placement of the gearbox is unsuitable for a live axle (due to excessive unsprung weight), the rear suspension is either independent or uses a de Dion tube (notably in the Alfa Romeos).

Notable FR vehicles with a transaxle design include:

1914-1939 Stutz Bearcat
1950-1958 Lancia Aurelia
1961-1963 Pontiac Tempest
1964-1968 Ferrari 275
1968-1973 Ferrari Daytona
1972-1986 Alfa Romeo 116-series (Alfa Romeo Alfetta )
1976-1991 Volvo 300 series
1976-1988 Porsche 924
1978-1995 Porsche 928
1982-1991 Porsche 944
1984-1987 Alfa Romeo 90
1985-1992 Alfa Romeo 75 (and predecessor, the 116-series Alfa Romeo Giulietta)
1989-1991 Alfa Romeo SZ
1992-1995 Porsche 968
1992-2003 Ferrari 456
1996-2005 Ferrari 550/575M
1997-up Chevrolet Corvette
1997-1999 Panoz Esperante GTR-1
2003-up Aston Martin DB9
2004-2005 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
2004-up Cadillac XLR
2004-up Maserati Quattroporte
2005-up Aston Martin V8 Vantage
2006-up Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano

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It would appear that the young and recently subscribed 'oldschooleuros' is entirely correct to refer to Milanos (and GTV-6s as well as Alfettas) as "transaxle Alfas with RWD". I've never owned one of these Alfas, but have heard them each referred to as such by their owners. If we were not in the Spider forum, perhaps one or more of these owners would verify this.
(Oh wait, Brian Shorey already did)

But enough of this, the young man really wanted to know about installation of headlight covers, such as I have on my car, shown below...
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Old 02-24-2008, 07:36 AM
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"I know more about GM and Ford cars than ANYONE on this forum!"

Takes some coconuts to make this statement......DD, need to gain some humility my friend. No matter what I know, someone always knows more. The trick is to find them and Listen.
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Old 02-24-2008, 07:46 AM
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"I know more about GM and Ford cars than ANYONE on this forum!"

Takes some coconuts to make this statement......DD, need to gain some humility my friend. No matter what I know, someone always knows more. The trick is to find them and Listen.
Not to mention, who cares? It's an Alfa forum!



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Old 02-24-2008, 07:51 AM
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I should be able to adapt those covers with a little fabbing.
I'm afraid that if you purchase a pre 82 Spider, it's more than a little fabbing. As someone mentioned before, the shape of the headlight cut-outs is different after 82. Is it doable? Yes, I have seen it done. I don't know how, but unless someone corrects me, it probably involves bodywork (or custom fabrication of covers, which I have not seen done I believe)
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Old 02-24-2008, 09:06 AM
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Nicola, your car looks awesome with those adapted, I like it.
To clear things up, in the thread where the man asked advice on what to buy, this is my verbatim quote, notice how I said "I have heard" instead of "know" or "have seen"
"164 is a nice car, but I am no FWD fan.
I have heard they are good cars, but like maitenece. Newer is not always better, in the case of your VW you say is bad. I am a Milano fan, and most owners comments I have read praise their integrity and reliability.
Just my .02. PLEASE take if from me, if your gut says take a 164, buy it. Do not settle, or buy because we say to buy it. I have done that too much in the past, and always end up with something I dont want. Get what you want. I think 164s are damn nice cars."

I give any advice I can, and if I feel that I am not correct, I will not post. I get a ton of help from this forum, and the short time I have been here, I have learned more than I could have ever imagined. I have been treated awesome here, and there is no doubt I will be becoming a subscriber. As I have said before, I am here for the long haul.
If anyone feels my quote up above contains anything that makes me sound like I am CERTAIN about what I said, just let me know. I thought I was clear that I couldnt verify this 100%.
BTW Peter, thanks. I will have to get a few of my buddies around, (one of them went to a state autobody comp) who are good with this type of work. It probably will take a while, but I think it will be a good learning experience.

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Pix of a S4 that's had the covers adapted (S3 would entail the same work)
No other information given on the process other than 'a little fibreglass work'


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I stole this pic from a recent E-bay auction of an S4, Wish the seller or buyer would weigh in with specifics on the installation. Looks real nice.
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LOL, transaxle in a RWD Alfa, you gotta be kidding me!!!!!