
11-28-2007, 08:48 AM
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If you are shifting 'UP' (say from 1st gear to 2nd gear) you don't need to blip the throttle. Especially if the clutch pedal is still pressed in as blipping the throttle with the clutch pedal pressed down will have no effect on the speed of the gears in the transmission.
If you are shifting 'DOWN' (say from 3rd gear to 2nd gear) then it may be helpful to shift into neutral - release the clutch, blip the throttle, press the clutch and then complete the shift into the lower gear.
The whole purpose of the 'double clutch' is to match the revs of the gears when you move the shift lever to the next position. When you are shifting 'up', the gears need to slow down to match the next speed. They'll do this by themselves as long as you don't slam the shift lever from one gear to the next - just pause briefly in neutral between shifts to allow the gears to slow down.
During a downshift, if the car hasn't slowed sufficiently (I'm assuming you are braking & slowing down) then you might need to blip the throttle in neutral to speed up the gears and lighten the load on the synchronizers.
Last edited by ghnl; 11-28-2007 at 08:52 AM.
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11-28-2007, 10:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ghnl
During a downshift, if the car hasn't slowed sufficiently (I'm assuming you are braking & slowing down) then you might need to blip the throttle in neutral to speed up the gears and lighten the load on the synchronizers.
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right, especially during spirited driving and FAST gear changes, you WILL need to blip the throttle, otherwise just be more patient. As Eric says, you do need to release and press the clutch (hence "double clutch") for it to have any effect
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11-28-2007, 12:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ghnl
If you are shifting 'UP' (say from 1st gear to 2nd gear) you don't need to blip the throttle. Especially if the clutch pedal is still pressed in as blipping the throttle with the clutch pedal pressed down will have no effect on the speed of the gears in the transmission.
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all makes fabulous sense, but if I do the same in keeping the clutch pressed in with no blip of throttle, out comes the snarled gear sound...that said, the clutch seems to be in fine working condition so this is so ever more quirky, but is what it is...
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghnl
If you are shifting 'DOWN' (say from 3rd gear to 2nd gear) then it may be helpful to shift into neutral - release the clutch, blip the throttle, press the clutch and then complete the shift into the lower gear.
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I have tried this method, but find that the aforementioned method works well as well on the downshift unless I am trying to make 'er engage greater than 4k on the tacho, then your method works better...
am I in the possession of a possessed auto?
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11-28-2007, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jcgoodlett2
all makes fabulous sense, but if I do the same in keeping the clutch pressed in with no blip of throttle, out comes the snarled gear sound...that said, the clutch seems to be in fine working condition so this is so ever more quirky, but is what it is..
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It really should not make any difference if you blip the throttle with the clutch held down during the shift. If it is making a difference on whether or not you get a grind as you engage the higher gear, you definitely need to check that your clutch is fully disengaging. See my post above.
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11-28-2007, 11:46 PM
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A blip with the clutch pushed in does help as it breaks lose the clutch.
even on a good clutch there is some drag. The most when it is at the same speed as the clamp.
but once is is spinning vs the clamp it is free and the drag is more or less gone. I think you might even get a air cushin.
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