
11-03-2007, 09:52 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 2,889
|
|
|
Yokohama AVS ES100
anyone have these?
__________________
1992 alfa romeo spider veloce, 19k miles
2000 saab 9-3 coupe, 20k miles
|

11-03-2007, 10:39 PM
|
 |
But Mad North-Northwest
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: SF Bay Area, CA
Posts: 2,062
|
|
|
Yeah, I've got 'em on my Spider. They seem to work quite well wet and dry.
I'm assuming you're not planning on driving in snow with them...that would probably be a bad idea.
__________________
Tom
1991 Spider
1987 Milano Gold
|

11-03-2007, 11:55 PM
|
 |
Registered User
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Colorado
Posts: 3,021
|
|
|
The AVS ES100 is a good tire and seems well suited to the Spider chassis.
They are not the stickiest but have good breakaway characteristics and are easy to control when driving at the limit.
Joe
|

11-04-2007, 03:59 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 2,889
|
|
|
i heard that these tires are "loud" - according to tirerack recommendations.
__________________
1992 alfa romeo spider veloce, 19k miles
2000 saab 9-3 coupe, 20k miles
|

11-04-2007, 07:52 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 2,889
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gubi
Yeah, I've got 'em on my Spider. They seem to work quite well wet and dry.
I'm assuming you're not planning on driving in snow with them...that would probably be a bad idea.
|
just for good weather.
__________________
1992 alfa romeo spider veloce, 19k miles
2000 saab 9-3 coupe, 20k miles
|

11-04-2007, 08:38 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Oakville ON
Posts: 1,753
|
|
Joe,
What would you say are the stickest? I have them (205/60X14) on my GTV. When I bought them 4 years ago they were rated by tire rack as the best (and almost the only) high performance tire available in their size. What do I buy next?
Thanks
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeCab
The AVS ES100 is a good tire and seems well suited to the Spider chassis.
They are not the stickiest but have good breakaway characteristics and are easy to control when driving at the limit.
Joe
|
__________________
Ken Lee
Oakville, ON
1974 GTV 2000 - Ruby (I'm never selling this one, honest!)
1973 GTV 2000 - Rowdy (or this one I hope)
|

11-04-2007, 11:14 AM
|
 |
But Mad North-Northwest
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: SF Bay Area, CA
Posts: 2,062
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by lgbalfa
i heard that these tires are "loud" - according to tirerack recommendations.
|
Yeah, I read that too before I bought them. I haven't noticed. With the Spider it's probably a non-issue anyway as you get so much noise from the wind that you won't hear tire noise.
__________________
Tom
1991 Spider
1987 Milano Gold
|

11-04-2007, 03:54 PM
|
 |
Registered User
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Colorado
Posts: 3,021
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by GTV4EVR
What would you say are the stickest? I have them (205/60X14) on my GTV. When I bought them 4 years ago they were rated by tire rack as the best (and almost the only) high performance tire available in their size. What do I buy next?
|
You are correct, in that 14" size the AVS ES100s do appear to be close to the only option for good high performance rubber.
For this very reason I moved up to a 15" wheel a few years ago on my GTV, and some S4 Spiders have 15" wheels standard. While the selection in 205/55-15 isn't great, there are several good high performance choices that would be stickier - including the newer Yokohama S.drive, the Toyo Proxes T1-R, and the BFG G-Force Sports.
Joe
|

11-04-2007, 04:02 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 2,889
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gubi
Yeah, I read that too before I bought them. I haven't noticed. With the Spider it's probably a non-issue anyway as you get so much noise from the wind that you won't hear tire noise.
|
good point since with the top down it is already noisy.
__________________
1992 alfa romeo spider veloce, 19k miles
2000 saab 9-3 coupe, 20k miles
|

11-04-2007, 05:45 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 1,012
|
|
|
I think you can still get the Falken Azenis in a 195/60/14. I have a set of these for track duty on my non-Alfa, and I think they're fantastic. I reluctantly switched back to my all seasons yesterday. My Spider has the Yokohamas and they don't have anywhere near the grip of the Azenis.
-Jason
__________________
Jason Arrington
'60 Giulietta Spider
'74 Spider - For Sale
'67 Super project
'98 M3 Sedan
'04 Mazda TurboCumminsSuperDieselMax MPV (Alfa tow rig)
|

11-04-2007, 06:36 PM
|
 |
Registered User
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Colorado
Posts: 3,021
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by jarrington
I think you can still get the Falken Azenis in a 195/60/14. I have a set of these for track duty on my non-Alfa, and I think they're fantastic. I reluctantly switched back to my all seasons yesterday. My Spider has the Yokohamas and they don't have anywhere near the grip of the Azenis.
|
I think the Azenis are a great semi-track tire, and a *really* amazing value.
My only gripe with them is the sizes they are available in (195/60-14 and 205/50-15) are IMHO a little bit too short for 105/115 series Alfas.
Joe
|

11-04-2007, 06:43 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Oakville ON
Posts: 1,753
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeCab
I think the Azenis are a great semi-track tire, and a *really* amazing value.
My only gripe with them is the sizes they are available in (195/60-14 and 205/50-15) are IMHO a little bit too short for 105/115 series Alfas.
Joe
|
That was the reason I chose the ES100s. I'm planning on putting in a 4.10 rear end next year, so I might opt for 195/60. I'll see how it goes.
__________________
Ken Lee
Oakville, ON
1974 GTV 2000 - Ruby (I'm never selling this one, honest!)
1973 GTV 2000 - Rowdy (or this one I hope)
|

11-04-2007, 07:19 PM
|
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 129
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by jarrington
I think you can still get the Falken Azenis in a 195/60/14. I have a set of these for track duty on my non-Alfa, and I think they're fantastic. I reluctantly switched back to my all seasons yesterday. My Spider has the Yokohamas and they don't have anywhere near the grip of the Azenis.
-Jason
|
I've got the Azenis on two of my three Spider's, if that tells you anything about how much I like them. I did have a set of ES100's on one of them, with Azenis on the other, and it was no contest. I buy mine from Vulcan Tire, and still have a spare unused set.
|

11-04-2007, 07:25 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 2,889
|
|
|
i had fulda tires on my saab and loved them. i dont think they make them in the usa anymore. anyone have them on their spiders?
__________________
1992 alfa romeo spider veloce, 19k miles
2000 saab 9-3 coupe, 20k miles
|

11-05-2007, 01:53 AM
|
|
Registered User
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Milpitas CA
Posts: 1,533
|
|
|
the old AVS had abit of noise but they wre just big chunks of rubber. the new avs es100 have no noise I can tell. I have then on both my cars. the old avs was like driving on ice if it was wet very very scary. the new avs es100 seem to stick almost as well wet as dry. and they seem to last when you push them hard vs other tires.
I have never used a Azenis but evey other tir I have used I hated compaired to the avs
__________________
1987 black Milano Verde
1972 White spider 2000 Veloce
|
|