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Old 09-21-2007, 12:33 PM
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Infobit: inexpensive BOSCH heated O2 sensor

K, so I got a little bored with my single wire (per spec) O2 sensor taking just short of a couple miles to get up to temperature and begin working, then watching it cool right off again at every stoplight in the world. (headers will do both of those things to ya)

After some searching and seeking, I stumbled across the Bosch universal heated narrowband (0-.9V per L-jet and Motronic spec) sensor.

It's a 3 wire job that after hooking up the single sensor lead requires nothing more than 1 of the two remaning wires to a key controlled 12V source and the other to a convenient chassis ground.

It's got a couple feet of harness already on it, (comes with one of those goofy splice & plug thingies loose in the box), so if you tap to the existing O2 wire, you'll have plenty of slack to get it away from all the scary pinchy/burny stuff.

The other two leads can be tapped on with as long a set of wires as you like to get it somewhere easy to work or deal with.


Bosch part # on the box is 15726 and the long Bosch # is 0258005726D09

The point of all this?

The standard Bosch replacement for the S3 runs around $100-$110+ and the heated one for the S4 starts at around $120-$140 and both go up from there.

This one off the shelf at the local Advance Auto: $63, and it works darn well I might add.
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Old 09-21-2007, 05:53 PM
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Thanks for posting! I've been meaning to research this for some time now, and, well, suddenly, *you* did it ( for me )!

Again, thanks,

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Old 09-28-2007, 08:01 AM
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Tifosi, I found that the Bosch Premium Oxygen Sensor 15735, 3 wire universal works great on my 87 Quad (3 years now) Bosch # F00HL00083D09

Another Bosch substitute sucess posted on the board recently was #13953

Bus Depot or any VW parts sites are good candidates I got my best price from The Parts Bin
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:00 AM
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Sweet.

You don't happen to remember the price(s) do you?

The more we can find that work and that don't cost a bagajillion dollars just because they fall under the 'Alfa specific' clause, the better.
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:12 AM
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Parts Bin Price for the Bosch Premium Universal #15735 was $52.95, that included free UPS shipping (Nov. 11 04)

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Old 09-28-2007, 10:15 AM
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IF you do a search for "oxygen sensor" on eBay, you can frequently pick up these universal Bosch 3 wire sensors new in the box for $20-$30. I have used them on my Porsche 928 S4's and GTS, and currently have a couple in spare inventory
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:07 PM
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Parts Bin Price for the Bosch Premium Universal #15735 was $52.95, that included free UPS shipping (Nov. 11 04)

Best regards, Elio
Elio;

What is the URL for Parts Bin?

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Old 09-29-2007, 05:52 AM
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The Parts Bin
92 Youngs Rd
Hamilton NJ 08619 1013
888 628-3247
customerservice@autopartswebsolutions.com

If you get the Bosch 15735 all you need to do is re:use the old sensor connector ends. It will come with some sad a** connector/splice thingies, but I soldered mine and used heat shrink. They ship free if order over $50.

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Old 09-29-2007, 11:19 AM
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go with one with proper length cable

I picked up a Beck Arnley part for my S4 Spider off of ebay for some absurdly low price, do not recall how much now. It was a universal piece with a maybe 12" or so pigtail and then those crimp connectors. I too soldered mine since I could not crimp them securely and then used heat shrink tape. If I had to do it all over again, which i should not have to do for many years, I would be tempted to look around for the best price on one with the proper length cable and save my self a LOT of time and aggravation with trying to use the crrimp connectors, having them come apart, threading the wire through, doing the soldering, etc. Maybe I am just incompetent, but I found the aggravation not worth the $$ saved. I think you can get non-Bosch with the long connector for a reasonable price. just my two cents!
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You won't get long AND complete with correct connector. TIMEA...
Also the Bosch Premium is a superior performer (read lifespan).

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Old 09-29-2007, 02:40 PM
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I did not know that the long wire would not come with the proper connector. But if that is the case at least the splice would be in a much easier area to monitor.
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Update

Interesting prices...

Advance Auto:
Bosch 13101 Direct Replacement $128.99
Bosch 15735 Universal $103.99
Bosch 15726 $62.98

Auto Zone:
Bosch 13101 Direct Replacement $128.99
Bosch 15735 Universal $124.99

NAPA:
BSH 13101 OE Type $189
BSH 15735 Universal Replacement $104
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:31 PM
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Bosch Premium Oxygen Sensor #15735 $86.16, free shipping, in stock.
ThePartsBin 1-888-628-3247.
ALTERNATE:
Tifosi indicated sucess with Bosch #15726 also in stock $57.12, Free shipping
Best regards, Elio

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Old 10-09-2007, 09:49 PM
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It's been in for a couple weeks now and working nicely.

A/F mixture meter indicates that it is heating up within 2 minutes of startup, even if it's left idling.

Once there' it stays up to temperature under all the driving conditions I go through regularly. (sedate Sunday idleputt cruise through screaming the pee out of it)

Of course next season after it's been stored all winter would likely tell more, but for now, I'm a happy camper.
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:30 AM
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Mr. Slacker you ain't. Thanks for the tip on the BCH-15726. At half the cost of all the others I'll try it out on my '93

I don't know how you found that one, but it should work. I wonder why it is isn't mentioned in any cross-reference?

A nag I have is that most of the online parts stores want a Year/Vehicle/Model/Engine before you can search for a part. I guess the search engine then goes to some standardized database everyone has purchased for their web site as they all point to the same parts.
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