2.0 in Giulia Spyder?

Rogue9 · #1 (**permalink**) 11-14-2003, 06:15 PM

Has anyone seen or know of a 2.0 motor in a Giulia Spyder 101?

**Alex Csank** · #2 (**permalink**) 11-14-2003, 06:18 PM

Yes, this conversion is very common. I believe that it is pretty easy, except for the block height interfering with the hood...and of course, you will probably need to upgrade transmissions, add in a hydraulic clutch, and you'll probably want a 105 LSD rear-end with 4 wheel disks.

**ossodiseppia** · #3 (**permalink**) 11-14-2003, 06:20 PM

Some of the Alfa parts suppliers can furnish motor mounts that will lower the engine enough to fit. I'm not sure who carries them.

Rogue9 · #4 (**permalink**) 11-14-2003, 06:37 PM

Great

Thanks for the info. If they create special mounts that would be a big help. I was worried about clearance of the hood and of the steering shaft. I truly hate that thing.

I was planning on replacing the rear-end on the car anyways. When my step-dad originally built the car he just welded the spyder gears together. It maked for interesting fun taking tight turns real slow. Basically you are dragging your *** around. So does the 105 bolt up easy or am i looking at major modifications?

**papajam** · #5 (**permalink**) 11-14-2003, 07:13 PM

It looks like www.centerlinealfa.com has the special engine mounts you're looking for; p/n EM502.

67GTV · #6 (**permalink**) 11-15-2003, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alex Csank
...add in a hydraulic clutch

**papajam** · #7 (**permalink**) 11-15-2003, 05:47 AM

Wouldn't work. The 1750/2000 bellhousing has the opening for the t/o bearing release fork on the right side; the mechanical clutch release fork comes up from the bottom. And there's no need to convert to hanging pedals either. Just use an 'under-the-floor' clutch master that came on the early 1750 GTVs and Spiders.

**Alex Csank** · #8 (**permalink**) 11-15-2003, 06:06 AM

Yeah, I'll have to agree with Papajam on this. Besides, it isn't all that hard to do, as the standing pedal parts are pretty easy to buy, mount and use. By the way, I believe that Peter Krause at www.krauseandengland.com, or Hans Milo (I don't have his info close at hand, sorry) have done a few of these conversions. You might want to check with them.

The other option that is much easier is to put a 1600 engine in. These engines are shorter, use the cable clutch, and are generally an easier fit in the engine bay.

But then, you wouldn't be able to have a hot-rodded 160HP 2.0 pushing your Giulietta around! Mind you, I have heard of 1300 race engines with 170HP!

Cheers and keep us posted!

mikem · #9 (**permalink**) 11-15-2003, 12:10 PM

Hi,
I tried to replace a Giulletta rear end with a 105 a LONG time ago... as I recall, not one part was the same! This included internal bearing seats etc. Lots of internals looked similar, but had been enlarged for the later 1600 Giulia. I know what your thinking, you have a Giulia! But the later cars had many more changes that the early Giulia spiders, most obviously the spring mounts on the radius arms, and the t-bar mount being horizontal instead of vertical. My advice is to look for a used Giulia rear end.
I've never tried the 2.0 conversion, but I think the simplest approach involves using the 1600cc flywheel. '63 was a 1600 wasn't it? For what it's worth I love my 1600 (Duetto) nice flexible motor but with some of the original rev happiness of the 1300's.
Good luck with your car.
Mike