Chassis and Engine Identification

[Jipstar]

As I have already stated in another forum, I am about to prurchase an early Giulia 1300 Super with chassis number 567912 and engine number 5910885. Can anyone tell me what year the car was produced, where it was produced and what number from the line of production it is from that chassis number?

I would also greatly appreciate if one point out if that engine number is coming from a genuine Alfa Romeo Super engine...

Thanks in advance

[Andrew]

You can go here to look it up: http://www.alfaclubdc.com/ProductionList.pdf

This fits within the range of 1965 Giulia 1300 Berlina (105.06), which is probably a single-carb version.

Where are you located?

Andrew

[Jipstar]

On an Island called Malta just a few miles South from Italy

[Jipstar]

but isn't a Berlina like this:

http://www.berlina.nl/berlina/foto/intro.jpg

[Andrew]

Yes, that's a Berlina. There are "Berlinas" (1750 and 2000 sedans from 1967-1977) and there are "berlinas"; sedan variants of all kinds of cars. There were Giulietta, Giulia, and Alfetta berlina models.

Andrew

[Jipstar]

So is my Gulia 1300 Super Berlina rare? And is the name Berlina just a spec (not a certain shape or model)?

What can you say about this particular moel? Maybe how many have ALFA produced, when this model first came out etc... What I really can't figure is that it hasn't got split seat infront, it's a whole piece! I've never seen a Giulia like this. Please keep me informed as I am really new to ALFA's, especially to the classic scene! I realy would like to know what value ad appreciation I have in my garage!


Thanks Andrew

[Damo105]

To clarify things....from my understanding, the word 'berlina' is the Italian word for 'sedan'. So often you'll find Italians refer to any Alfa sedan as a berlina, eg Giulia Super berlina.

And then Alfa Romeo officially used the word as the name for the 1750 and 2000 versions of the 105 sedans.

So the early 105 sedans (1300 + 1600) were called the Giulia Super, whereas the later models were just identified as 1750/2000 Berlina (sedan).

Hope that makes sense !?

Damien

[rogerspeed]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damo105 To clarify things....from my understanding, the word 'berlina' is the Italian word for 'sedan'. So often you'll find Italians refer to any Alfa sedan as a berlina, eg Giulia Super berlina. And then Alfa Romeo officially used the word as the name for the 1750 and 2000 versions of the 105 sedans.

[101/105guy]

Sounds like a great car! Can you share the series number with us? It may be : 105.39 and should be before the chassis number. This will help to find exactly which Giulia you have.
Randy

[Andrew]

Look at the tipo plate in the engine compt to see if it's a 105.06. If so, it's a 1300, probably with single carburetor. Go to http://www.alfaclubdc.com/Giulia1300.pdf

Fusi shows there were 12,000 105.06 built in 1964, 14,000 in 1965, 30,000 in 1966, 2,300 in 1967, etc. This appears to be the first variant of the 1300 engine in the Giulia sedan body. This is the model that was most likely the biggest seller in Italy, for price and tax reasons.

I would not call this rare, in the context of Giulia sedans, of which 500,000 total were built in a bewildering variety of models and tipo numbers, although basically there are 1300 single carb (TI, Berlina), 1300 dual carb (Super), 1600 single carb (TI, Giulia S), and 1600 dual carb (Super, TI Super) variants (plus a later diesel). On the other hand, further context is that it's a 40-year-old car of which only some hundreds are left running in the world. So what's "rare" is kinda relative.

Andrew