Sedan Bug

**nochicken** · #1 (**permalink**) 03-12-2006, 05:07 PM

I'm beginning to catch the Alfa sedan bug. I have had a '78 Spider for the past 5 years, but recently I wandered over to this side of the bb.

Any thoughts on best models/years? I am looking at the '70-'75 era (or thereabouts--don't want those beastly rubber bumpers). I know from the Spider that I don't have infinite mechanical skills--am trying to stick to a decent (non-project) car. Any thoughts on the bobcor cars--they look great on the web site.

My preference is the Berlina followed by the Giulia.

Any insight appreciated.

Thanks.

Greg Gordon · #2 (**permalink**) 03-12-2006, 05:12 PM

I know what you mean by the "sedan bug" There is something much more European about the sedans. I can't quite explain it but perhaps it's because the Spiders were more aimed at the U.S. market.

Of course I think the Milano is the way to go. A really nice Milano Gold is inexpensive, FUN, and has huge performance potential.

sutera_ci · #3 (**permalink**) 03-12-2006, 05:21 PM

Frank, you may wish to go over to berlinaregister.com .. this website is maintained by Andrew Watry, one of the frequent contributors to this site. There is a great comparison analysis between the Giulia sedans and the Berlinas. '75 would include the Alfetta, which is an entirely different design mechanically and cosmetically. I own a '72 Berlina that is basically an everyday driver. The car was resurrected by RogerSpeed, also a frequent contributor to the alfabb. I don't know if I have an increased niavete' quotient (sp?), but there are devoted alfisti on this site who have poured their blood flesh and tears into sedans only to ultimately pass them on to others. This was how i benefitted from such a fine car.

I would be a little careful before attrributing top status to the Bobcor cars. Many on the alfabb have experience with Bobcor and can elaborate. Or, you can simply search this site and find many entertaining vignettes about this dealer.

you're going to get quite a few responses from this email. The Sedan people on the alfabb are incredibly helpful.

**nochicken** · #4 (**permalink**) 03-12-2006, 06:16 PM

That is an excellent site! I'll spend some time there to get educated on these cars. My Spider is a little impractical for everday driving--definitely would want more of a "driver" sedan rather than one that gets locked up in a heated garage.
Looking forward to the bb inputs!

**101/105guy** · #5 (**permalink**) 03-12-2006, 08:47 PM

My recomendation........

alfa63 · #6 (**permalink**) 03-12-2006, 09:15 PM

Doesn't that thing look AWESOME!! This is the second Super I've seen with the Giulietta/Giulia steel wheels. I wonder if they're easier to find then the correct steel wheels for the Super.

**101/105guy** · #7 (**permalink**) 03-12-2006, 09:19 PM

Check out the hubcaps.....they look like 105 style, but fit 101 type wheels!
This car is listed as a '66 and the wheels are probably correct for the really early ones.

alfa63 · #8 (**permalink**) 03-12-2006, 09:30 PM

I've got those same hubcaps. They're attached to the wheels via clips versus being pushed on. I've got the clips and hubcaps but no wheels.

Back to the topic though; nochicken - I'd check out your local Alfa club as well.

py105 · #9 (**permalink**) 03-12-2006, 09:55 PM

I think I'm going to cry. I want a sedan too!

That Giulia looks SOO damn good. Love the wheels too, though mine would probably have TZs..

**nochicken** · #10 (**permalink**) 03-13-2006, 09:26 AM

Nice! Who needs a convertible....

Vivace · #11 (**permalink**) 03-13-2006, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfa63

I've got those same hubcaps. They're attached to the wheels via clips versus being pushed on. I've got the clips and hubcaps but no wheels.

Andrew · #12 (**permalink**) 03-13-2006, 12:51 PM

Real Alfisti drive sedans. By all means check out www.berlinaregister.com I will be adding more Giulia stuff over time, but most of the Berlina advice is applicable to Giulias.

A Milano is a different animal in terms of feel, looks, performance, and ownership issues, but presumably a great car. I personally have never warmed up to 164s. A good Alfetta sedan can be a fun car; great brakes.

My own biased choice of four-cylinder cars that you're likely to actually find for sale is (1) Giulia Super, (2) other Giulia sedan models, (3) 1750 Berlina, (4) 2000 Berlina.

Early 105 cars had clips to hold the hubcaps onto the wheels, as with 101 cars, though the caps had a different profile, and the wheels had different holes.

Andrew

Giulia Bianca · #13 (**permalink**) 03-13-2006, 12:56 PM

The car is from 28 march 1965 and my pride and joy

Vivace · #14 (**permalink**) 03-13-2006, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giulia Bianca

The car is from 28 march 1965 and my pride and joy

Giulia Bianca · #15 (**permalink**) 03-13-2006, 01:50 PM

Abouth 5 years ago a friend of mine has bought a SZ CT from Switzerland, these wheels where with the car, there where allso some pictures of this car
from the sixties with these wheels mounted
I bought the wheels from him after he mounted Campa's and Bi-metals
They are widened Borrani steel 101 wheels, abouth 6"x15", the offset I don't know, they are widened by removing the center, and are welded on another
rim, looks like factory work.
Tire size is 185x65x15, they fit the Giulia very well altough I now have replaced them with 5,5 Tecno's