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Ti Super / Giulia Sprint 101 brakes

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This is clearly an early build car - you'll notice that behind the holes are the gorgeous finned alloy brake drums that the first of the Ti Supers were equipped with - pretty soon after, they switched to discs.
P.S. This is what the front drums look like - swoon material! They are quite wide and have triple leading shoes, which gives the great stopping power. The rears have circumferential fins and two shoes. The Giulia SS also ran these brakes. The piccy is of the Giulia Sprint.
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64 Giulia TI Super replica (still building after all these years...)
62 Giulia Sprint 101
Fiat 128SL (a bit dead)

Then:
1967 Giulia Super daily driver
1966 Giulia Super (part rebuilt)
1972 Berlina 2000 parts car (LSD donated to TI Super project)
1969 1750 GTV (oops, forgot about that one)
1965 GTA (OK, it was a slot car..)
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Old 06-02-2009, 04:20 PM
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No info on the wheels but...

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Reviving an old thread ...

I was going through a few files last weekend and came across this black and white photo which I purchased at a swap meet some years ago, but had completely forgotten about. The photo speaks for itself, but on the back is written "Giulia Ti Super, nouvelles roues coulies en élektron" ('new wheels cast in elektron'). The date is unknown but the photo credit is given to one "Et[ien] Cornil". Does anyone recognise these wheels? Careful inspection of the cooling holes shows that they're not the 80s/90s Technomagnesio replicas, and certainly not the Hein Brand/Compomotive items.

I'd LOVE to get my hands on a set of the early square-hole style of wheel but, for now at least, can anyone add any info on the wheel below?

Cheers,

Alex.
Hello Alex,

Happy to meet you again through the BB.

Your pic is very interesting for 2 reasons.

1 - The pic itself, a good -rare- view of the famous square rounded ELEKTRON whell of the Ti Super (I call these 'Nessie': everybody's talking about this item but nobody did actually see one set in real)

2 - The author of the picture was Etienne CORNIL (Belgian, not French...)
(small history, out from the book described below...)
He is considered as one of the great names in automotive journalism, even if he left the profession for many years. Born in Belgium in 1935, he wrote what he thought of cars during his engineering studies in Brussels. In 1960, he settled in Italy and became the recipient of the “Revue technique Automobile de Berne” and other international magazines.

He was invited for all the introductions of new vehicles performed by the Italian manufacturers, including the presentation of the new Giulia Ti Super (24 april 1963 on Monza racetrack)
This is certainly the day the pic was shot as everybody agree to say that all the Ti Supers available for the presentation were fitted with Alfin ‘SS like’ drums.

Étienne Cornil was also, until 1979, editor of the monthly magazine of "Associazione Tecnica dell'Automobile". He gave up journalism in 1969 to become the press officer of Lamborghini before being hired, two years later, by Fiat then Fiat Auto. Étienne Cornil has worked at Fiat Auto until 1999 as director of publications in the advertising department, within the commercial and marketing division. He was also member of prestigious associations "Guild of Motoring Writers" and “Society of Automotive Engineers" (SAE)

He is also the co-author in 1966 of a book entitled ”Ferrari par Pininfarina, terchnologie et beauté” –No need for translation here- (Edited by Style Auto, and reissued in 1990 by Giorgio Nada Editore, the well known Italian publisher.


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thanks Seb'. !!!

merci Seb' pour ces infos... !!!

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Old 06-13-2009, 06:15 AM
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the first 40 or so TI Supers from 63 did have drum brakes, as does the example in the museo storico. After that: Dunlop.
I've been finding out a lot about TI Supers lately due to having one in the shop to restore. The devil to find out what is or is not original.
Some had one sunvisor, others two, etc...
Here are some pics of the Museum car in Arese:













I doubt that this car had drum brakes, at least not as big ones as in the other picture. Unfortunately they did not allow me to remove a wheel
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Old 06-13-2009, 11:17 AM
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I doubt that this car had drum brakes, at least not as big ones as in the other picture.
I agree. Front drum brakes are very large and You can easily see them.

A couple of pictures:
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Excellent images

Now, with all due respect to those individuals and companies who have produced 'emulations' of these wheels in the past, WHY is it so hard to get the details right?!

I'm puzzled.

Alex.
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Excellent images



Alex.
Well actually the museum is very dim and since you were not actually allowed to go near the cars I had to sneak up. Unforunately the high ISO setting made the images grainy....

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Old 06-16-2009, 12:06 PM
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I happen to have museum pics of a TI S WITH drum brakes clearly visible. (in arese)
Then again, how many do they have?

OTOH, I have the spare parts manual at hand, and yes the first had drums...
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My pictures are from early 2007 and at that time there was only this TI Super.
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mine are from an old folder from '97 when I was there...
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Anyone know the chassis number of the Ti Super in the museum?

I have been trying to get that for a long time to add the car to the Register

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Anyone know the chassis number of the Ti Super in the museum?

I have been trying to get that for a long time to add the car to the Register

Barry
No, sorry. They almost threw me out when I made the interior pictures, so I doubt that anyone would have opened the bonnet for me ;-) I guess they would tell you if you asked them by mail, wouldn't they?

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Does anyone know how many different companies make the TZ/TI Super replica wheels?

There's a Japanese company that advertises some 15x6x33 TZ/TI wheels. I haven't seen them advertised anywhere else and I'm curious who makes them.

I really like the looks of the Campagnolo wheels with hubcaps. Most of the replicas are not drilled for clip-on hubcaps. Has anyone made the modification?
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Hein Brand, and Autoparco in Japan. Seen both, love the Autparco's.
The HB's are well, second choice.
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...I really like the looks of the Campagnolo wheels with hubcaps. Most of the replicas are not drilled for clip-on hubcaps. Has anyone made the modification?
My thoughts exactly. I haven't the funds to do so at present, that was my plan, too!

I was told somewhere that Porsche 356 hubcap clips can be pop riveted onto aluminum repro TZ wheels.
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