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I cannot understand why every second car is not an Alfa Romeo

We drove our 156 v6 from Tauranga to Hamilton yesterday to show my parents and to have dinner. Yes I put the old thermostat back in ... and yes she ran cold ...

But what an awesome car. So much torque. Doesn't really need a gearbox. How the heck did they do that? Man they must breathe so well.

Went up the Kaimai ranges in top gear without me having to accelerate more than a few millimetres and never dropped below 95km/h. Okay on the way home I dropped down a couple of gears because the corners are tighter.

Quiet, handles bumps well, corners instinctively (this sort of driving you can't tell that is is FWD), didn't use much petrol, aircon worked well, radio worked all the way (major concern with the kids as our old Honda Odyssey looses the station) and very easy to keep to the speed limit. I did though hit the rev limiter in 2nd near the end of the trip home when I was playing ... she revs so fast!

I honestly cannot understand why so many buy other brands! What a car, and strangely reminds me of my GTV in being such a solid and relaxed cruiser/mile eater.
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We drove our 156 v6 from Tauranga to Hamilton yesterday to show my parents and to have dinner. Yes I put the old thermostat back in ... and yes she ran cold ...

But what an awesome car. So much torque. Doesn't really need a gearbox. How the heck did they do that? Man they must breathe so well.

Went up the Kaimai ranges in top gear without me having to accelerate more than a few millimetres and never dropped below 95km/h. Okay on the way home I dropped down a couple of gears because the corners are tighter.

Quiet, handles bumps well, corners instinctively (this sort of driving you can't tell that is is FWD), didn't use much petrol, aircon worked well, radio worked all the way (major concern with the kids as our old Honda Odyssey looses the station) and very easy to keep to the speed limit. I did though hit the rev limiter in 2nd near the end of the trip home when I was playing ... she revs so fast!

I honestly cannot understand why so many buy other brands! What a car, and strangely reminds me of my GTV in being such a solid and relaxed cruiser/mile eater.
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Maybe it doesn't help that in NZ middle-aged Alfa's like 156's sell for spare change and for many people cost quite a bit to run. Some of the costs my Dad was quoted over the years for relatively simple work on his series of 75s, 164, and 156 were criminal. Luckily even in his 80's he has been willing to question and research, but even he gave up in the end and bought a Hyundai.

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The majority of car buyers follow the masses who buy GM, Ford, VW (who fool their costumers with false fuel economy and pollution figures), Toyota and what have we.
Apart from driving and looking good the many Alfa (+ Fiat and Lancia) my wife and I have owned the last 30 years have been reliable and easy to service plus holding their values pretty well.
Labour and parts hasn't cost more than other brands'. I don't necessary always use authorized Fiat/Alfa repair shops. Most thing car be done buy a local independently repair shop. This even was the case with my classic AR Spider 1970.
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I had a very wordy reply about how my father views cars from an ease of servicing point of view being a mechanic but enjoys driving Alfa Romeos but lost it so not going to write that out again ...

One thing that is missing is cup holders and I have a solution but that will have to wait until I'm setup in our new to us house. Yes we have finally bought and moving in before Christmas so GTV restoration will restart ... again soon.

Will be interesting to see how much the 156 costs to run, but I have no intention of selling her. This car will be my "family" car.
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"Maybe it doesn't help that in NZ middle-aged Alfa's like 156's sell for spare change"

And we in the US cannot get any Alfa newer than 1995, alas. Oh, there are a very few 'bandit's' running around here but still...

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Okay one reason might be because Repco cannot supply even something as simple as a thermostat. Two attempts now and both very wrong, although the second may suit some Alfa Romeo but neither of mine.

So thankfully because this is New Zealand there is Alfa Romeo dealers so that is where I will go tomorrow
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Okay one reason might be because Repco cannot supply even something as simple as a thermostat. Two attempts now and both very wrong, although the second may suit some Alfa Romeo but neither of mine.

So thankfully because this is New Zealand there is Alfa Romeo dealers so that is where I will go tomorrow
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Watch out Pete - from experience in NZ the main dealers know little about anything other than the new models and charge a fortune for even simple parts like that. Better I'd say to hit the Internet and send your custom UK way.

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Watch out Pete - from experience in NZ the main dealers know little about anything other than the new models and charge a fortune for even simple parts like that. Better I'd say to hit the Internet and send your custom UK way.
Oh, thanks. Who do you recommend?
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Hi Pete

Try The Italian Job in Akl or CHCH. Parts are OEM and cheap. Dealers re too dear in NZ. Stay AWAY from the Repcos of this world s thye know zNOTHING about proper cars'

Well, I have got an Alfa at the moment!! Is is a 2004 156 2.5 Q. Oh, I have a Stilo Abarth as well! Yay!!
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Oh, thanks. Who do you recommend?
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I'd try The Italian Auto Centre, Saleyard Rd in Otahuhu. We've had good service from them over the years.

Worth asking the local AROC(NZ) guys as well.

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Yes time to rejoin the AROCNZ!!

Thanks guys.
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Finally got the right thermostat. Yes I paid extra ($200) and went to an Alfa dealership but I was getting frustrated with not being able to sort this.

I will need to create an area on my shelving for this car as I'm not throwing the old one away ... yet . Note the new one is fully closed as expected when cold.
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... and installed and now the engine temperature is perfect. Wonder how any miles the poor thing did with a stuffed thermostat?

Anyway easy fix.
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Hi Pete,
Did you by any chance check the pipe that runs between the water pump and thermostat. Sometimes they can weep at the thermostat housing end. Mine did - I could smell hot water when I got home - it was a tiny weep but enough to drop the water level over a few days.

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Well, I have got an Alfa at the moment!! Is is a 2004 156 2.5 Q. Oh, I have a Stilo Abarth as well! Yay!!
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