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Looking at the first post of this thread from two years ago, two bucks a gallon actually looks good. In the late nineties, when gas was just over a dollar a gallon around here, I wouldn't ever have imagined in less than ten years, that we would be paying double--now triple or perhaps quadruple by this summer.
IMHO, I think that the colluding oil companies are getting us comfortable with gas at three dollars, so if the price falls below three dollars, we feel good about it--and still too high. Also, I can't believe that the high price of fuel hasn't been more inflationary for the entire market.
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04-24-2008, 01:31 PM
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The companies are getting very good at raising prices without anyone noticing or caring. Ive seen local businesses changing the prices every day, usually within 10 cents..
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04-24-2008, 02:38 PM
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we pay the equivalent of $7.53 for a us gallon, 95 octane is the standard fuel. 97, 99 and 102 are all available at ever increasing prices
in Venezuela a gallon costs 5 cents
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04-24-2008, 07:29 PM
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Heavy use of the throttle (open/close) seems to have more impact on economy than constant high speed at stable throttle openings.
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I agree with this statement completely, however, this person stated that he was doing speeds of 90 - 110+ which would have to bring the rpm to about 5,000 or so, maybe more. You can run at that speed as long as you want, but its still not going to be economical and it will have an impact on fuel economy.
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04-28-2008, 08:20 PM
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I really feel bad for the truckers, diesel if off the charts right now! And when they try to protest, other owner operators who need loads to haul pick up the slack. There is no reason why diesel should be so pricey, its easier to refine then gas, and up until the early 90's when it became a niche fuel, it was cheaper then gasoline.
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04-28-2008, 08:54 PM
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A buddy of mine works in Saudia Arabia as a Geologist.
At last count, about a year ago, 65 cents a gallon.
Yeah. I thought and said the same thing (no matter what you thought or said). 
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04-28-2008, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jontg428
I really feel bad for the truckers, diesel if off the charts right now! And when they try to protest, other owner operators who need loads to haul pick up the slack. There is no reason why diesel should be so pricey, its easier to refine then gas, and up until the early 90's when it became a niche fuel, it was cheaper then gasoline.
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I don't =). They get much better fuel economy than us gasoline car owners do, and I bet with the price difference, they're still ahead. They don't have to go through emission testing and I see them (the ones in poor repair) purging clouds of black smoke into the atmosphere, so I still don't feel bad. Lol.
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04-29-2008, 01:52 AM
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I beg to differ, a semi truck gets at most 7 MPG with a full load, and keep in mind everything that is in your house was brought to you by a truck! This affects all of us greatly! Here is an interesting quote
"Accordingly, a semi-trailer will hold three rows of 20 refrigerators without stacking -- 60 refrigerators. Anecdotally, a semi-truck gets 6 mpg (sounds like pretty good mileage to me). A load of refrigerators driven across the country will travel 3000 miles at 6 miles per gallon, using 500 gallons of gas. At $4 per gallon, that comes to $2000 which will have to be added to the cost of 60 refrigerators"
OK, your 164 would get better mileage running flat out!
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04-29-2008, 07:51 AM
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OK, your 164 would get better mileage running flat out!
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So would my Merc, It get's 7 at that speed...
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04-29-2008, 08:03 AM
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too bad someone was so shorrt sighted as to shut down all but a few of the railroads in this part of the country, rail uses far less diesel than the trucks they replace.
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05-05-2008, 10:28 PM
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hahah
this post is funny....we thought THAT was a lot a few years ago..look at it now
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05-06-2008, 10:25 AM
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look at it in 2 years
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05-20-2008, 01:18 PM
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So would my Merc, It get's 7 at that speed... 
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is all you have gas guzzlers .
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05-20-2008, 01:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jontg428
I beg to differ, a semi truck gets at most 7 MPG with a full load, and keep in mind everything that is in your house was brought to you by a truck! This affects all of us greatly! Here is an interesting quote
"Accordingly, a semi-trailer will hold three rows of 20 refrigerators without stacking -- 60 refrigerators. Anecdotally, a semi-truck gets 6 mpg (sounds like pretty good mileage to me). A load of refrigerators driven across the country will travel 3000 miles at 6 miles per gallon, using 500 gallons of gas. At $4 per gallon, that comes to $2000 which will have to be added to the cost of 60 refrigerators"
OK, your 164 would get better mileage running flat out!
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The equivalent unleaded gasoline-powered Semi (if they even exist), would not get that good of fuel economy. Compare a diesel car to a gasoline-powered car.
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05-20-2008, 02:04 PM
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Conversely a deisel train gets roughly 425mpg over a long trip when fully loaded, or at least that's what the people who keep track of such things in the rail industry claim. (and they can carry several fully loaded semi's....)
Ah, I see Alfacliff mentioned that a few posts up.
Sorry for the redundancy.
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