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Beartooth Highway Run!
Greetings:
What a Fantastic day we had!!! Leaving early from Red Lodge, we got a jump on the crowds, and had a smooth and unopposed run across US 212 Beartooth Highway. The weather was stunning. Crisp, certainly, at 8AM, but the visibility seemed like 100 miles! With all there was to see, the run could likely be taken several times in a day to catch every nuance.
The run was made with the top down, our shells and caps on, and the heat on gently warming our feet. The roadway was well paved, and none of the white stuff lingering on the road bed. There were small patches of snow in the sheltered areas, as shown in the pictures. We have way too many photos to post here, but I hope to eventually put them up on the gallery pages I posted earlier.
After the pass, the road falls into Cook City, where we did a little decompressing and shopping at the Trading Post. Then on to Yellowstone, where we had lunch at the Roosevelt Lodge, just inside the NE gate.
We had visited lower Yellowstone last year while shuttling the Alfetta home. But it was only June, so the snow as still falling. Today, we enjoyed about half our visit in sunshine, but a storm rolled in and brought some light rain and heavy overcast. Top up, jackets back on, we traveled out to see the Artist's Paint Pots, and the Mammoth Hot springs. The traffic in the park was not an issue at all, with much of the run done with no one impeding us.
The drive out of the park (through the Roosevelt Gate) and up to Livingston was supposed to be uneventful, but the Montana Highway department chose this week to re-oil and chip-grade the first 15 miles of 89. Ugh. The section was taken at 25-30 MPH behind a Pilot Truck. There had been some delays between the Beartooth Pass and Yellowstone, but those paled in comparison to the hassle of driving over basically loose gravel for 1/2 hour. Had we known, we would have slipped out the West Gate and run by Big Sky, as we did last year on our way in.
- Michael
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07-08-2009, 10:58 PM
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Greetings:
This evening we went into downtown and had dinner at the Livingston bar and Grill. Great decor, great food, but the service was a bit slow. Seemed all the help were fawning over a visiting TV personality, James Denton of those silly Desperate Housewives. Tall, handsome brute. The downtown area is quite nice, with numerous restaurants, bars and shops, and the requisite Movie House.
The Spider is running like clockwork, and with the run over the pass behind us, we can breath a bit easier.
Last thing we did this evening is find a self-serve car wash and scrub her down. Tomorrow we are off north to the Glacier National Park area.
- Michael
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07-09-2009, 06:59 AM
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Glacier Park--some of the best mountain scenery reachable by road that you can find. 
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07-09-2009, 07:13 AM
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07-09-2009, 10:38 PM
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Greetings:
Thanks to Subtle and lowmilage for the motivation!
I find myself so invigorated by the drive we are on. Must be the adrenalin rush of the scenery and being in the Alfa for these roads. I griped a bit yesterday about the 15 miles of slo-go on loose gravel, but Montana has teated us to hundreds and hundreds of miles of grade road that are drivable at 70 to 80 MPH while feeling completely in control and comfortable. Wheee!
Like today's! We left Livingston on I90, running west to US 287 North, which took us in initially up to Helena. We visited the State House grounds, and then went downtown to a pedestrian mall on the former Last Chance Gulch Street. While visiting a jewelry store, we found ourselves discussing the next leg up to Glacier with the proprietor. He steered us to taking the run up the eastern side of the Rockies, rather than our intended route to the west. His justification was that the Rockies are in full and splendid view from the flatlands to the east, while our original route is heavily forested and not at all that interesting. We took his advice and the trip was spectacular as suggested.
Taking I 15 north out of Helena, we then rejoined US 287 for the next leg north. Our lunch stop was at a wonderful MooseHorn Bar and Grill in Augusta. At one point Kathy noticed an old road bed that had bloomed in golden flowers With the Rockies in the background, it made a great photo.The route took us up to East Glacier, and then over the Marias Pass at the bottom of the park to West Glacier, where we had dinner.
Tomorrow we drive back to West Glacier, where we will leave our trusty Spider behind and take a 7 hour Red Bus ride over the Going To the Sun Road.
The first attached photo panorama is from summit of the BearTooth Pass yesterday. BB won't let me load the image in a usable size, so if you are interested you can see it at BearTooth Pass Large Enjoy!
- Michael
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07-09-2009, 11:31 PM
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FANTASTIC Michael -
Zach and I mistakenly took the Maria's Pass route on our way to KC in 1999 and never regretted it (of course the Going to the Sun was still closed in June!!).
I am SO happy you are enjoying the full splendor of the third largest state, (and my favorite).
Looking forward to meeting you in Portland. Enjoy that route through Whistler too - you're going to love the next few days!!!
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07-10-2009, 02:44 AM
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Michael and Kathy
Great photos. The flowered road bed looks very Wizard of Oz like. Great shot Kathy!
You found the Yellow Brick Road??
Kudos to the car for making it over the pass.
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07-10-2009, 10:50 PM
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Glacier: The Big Red Bus Did It!
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Today's tour of the Going to the Sun Road in Glacier National Park was accomplished by taking the Big Red Bus, not by tooling along in the Spider. We (Kathy, I and the Spider) needed a bit of a rest after 7 days of hard driving. Truth be told, this particular road is better left to the professionals, and in this case that would be the bus tour operators.
While our BearTooth Highway run was wide open, this road is quite tight and very crowded. The bus allowed us to gaze out on the wonder without the hassle of fighting my fellow road warriors. And the buses are neat! Originaly 34 of these White Tour Buses were built in 1936-1937, and back a few years ago Ford Motor undertook a total restoration of 33 of them. Now they have propane as fuel, power brakes, and auto transmissions. The "Jammers" of old are replaced, in our case, by a lovely college student who knows the park like the back of her hand. AND THEY ARE CONVERTIBLES!
The views contrast quite a bit with those of the Beartooth/Yellowstone. The mountains are not nearly as high, as the summit of the Beartooth highway pass is actually higher than the highest peak in Glacier. But the views seem more compact, with so many more mountain peaks in a smaller space. Different, and we are glad we experienced it.
Our lunch stop was at the Many Glaciers Lodge, where fine food and service was provided in their huge dinning hall. Very Alpine decor, scenery, and food (I had a German Sausage, yum!). For dinner we wandered down Main Street in Kalispell and stumbled on a fantastic restaurant, "Capers". Hope they do well, as the area seems to desperately need some fine dining. An observation: "Downtown" areas such as Fargo, Helena and Lincoln have been able to maintain their "Main Street" in some historic state, by insulating it from the modern thoroughfares. The main highway North-South through Kalispell rips right up Main Street, which has IMHO left it a bit stark and inhospitable to foot traffic.
Here are some shots from today, starting with a panoramic view of the Many Glaciers Lodge Large. The small image here can be seen in a bigger view at the following link: Many Glaciers Lodge Large
Tomorrow we are off to Canada!
- Michael
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07-11-2009, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Cintos
...Tomorrow we are off to Canada!
- Michael
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Enjoy yourselves, eh!
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07-11-2009, 11:59 PM
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Oh, Canada!
Greetings:
This morning dawned dry and sunny, so we set out from Kalispell with the top down for the ride to Lake Louise, Alberta. Another nice run on Montana Roads, traveling up US 93 into Canada just above Eureka, where it becomes BC Rt 93. North of the border we stumbled on a wonderful place:
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Fort Steele is a Heritage Town, where visitors can travel back in time to the 1890s and enjoy daily re-enactments of the town's past history and heritage year-round. Throughout British Columbia, diverse historic 19th-century forts have been preserved as reminders of how the west was settled by Europeans. Fort Steele is undoubtedly the best example and is well worth a day's visit when travelling through the East Kootenays in summer months.
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We agree that this place is well worth the visit, as it is very carefully preserved, and does not look like a Disney Park. Free to enter, BTW. We had lunch in one of their "hotel" restaurants.
A bit further north we stopped at a view overlooking the Columbia Lake. The sign states this is the source of the Columbia River, which travels all the way from there to the Portland area, just like we will be doing!
By entering the Banff National Park from the western entrance on 93, the visitor is treated to 100 KM of fantastic road as the highway cuts up and over from the Rocky Mountain Trough Trans-Canadian Highway and the Banff valley. Start with a full tank at Radium Hot Springs, 'cause it is 140KM to the next gas, in Banff.(although the Spider made the entire trip from Kalispell to Banff on one tank!)
Kathy took the photo of a Moose and it's young offspring sprinting along on that stretch. It was also the area I took the Serpent Mountain picture 
We treated ourselves to some alternate transportation in Banff - The Gondola Ride up Sulphur Mountain. Then we had a wonderful dinner at Georgioo's Trattoria in downtown Banff. Then off to Lake Louise, where we will be spending two nights.
Tomorrow we plan to drive up towards Jasper, stopping to take another form of alternative transportation over the Columbia Ice Fields....
--- Michael
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07-12-2009, 12:21 AM
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Simply wonderful
Michael -
I've added your trip to my Alfa "bucket list", although I believe it'll be run in reverse - maybe next time AONE hosts a convention???
I am totally immersed in vicariously enjoying your trip. Thank you so much for sharing the travelogue.
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1971 Junior Zagato 1750 (1800605) ~ "Zach"
"You see that car? Is it different from all the others? Then it's a Zagato."
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07-12-2009, 09:37 AM
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Michael -
I've added your trip to my Alfa "bucket list",...
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Nicola: Statistically, driving any type of sports car any distance seems to be a non-conventional move. We have been on the lookout for anyone who might help validate our sanity. With the major exceptions of late model Corvettes (one C4, several C5, a dozen C6) we have seen virtually no convertible roadsters on the trip. Yesterday was an exception, as we saw two Boxters, a BMW 3 convertible, and a bright red TR3. Of course, they were in Canada. An occasional Min has been sighted, but no Miattas, no Nissan Z cars, no Fiats, and certainly no Alfas.
There are a LOT of motorcycles out there - everywhere. Mountains, cities, scenic roads, interstates. That seems to be the transportation of choice by our fellow nonconformists. Kathy has a motorcycle license; had one before her auto license. She enjoys an occasional ride on relative's bikes in New Hampshire, but she is not interested in "traveling" on one. Be assured, neither am I. The Spider is our "motorcycle alternative", in a way.
Metric: we have put over 3,500 miles on the Spider since leaving CT. That works out to 388 miles per day for the 9 days so far (430/day if you consider our one idle day at Glacier). We checked the odometer, and it run s about 4% optimistic - due to the 195/55 tires) I put one quart of oil in so far, but it likely needs another one today. Getting just over 31 MPG on the trip.
Here are a few shots from the Ft. Steele Historic site. They have a steam train that runs tours over a 4km roadbed. Also another shot from above Banff on Sulphur Mountain, and one Kathy took of the sun setting on the TransCanadian. We have been blessed with fair weather (a bit cool) and long days. The last shot in the previous post - spider at the hotel with the ice fields visible in the background - was taken at 10:15 PM with my cell phone!)
- Michael
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07-12-2009, 10:44 PM
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Columbia Ice Fields
Greetings:
We put on another 180 miles today, traveling up towards Jasper to the Coumbia Ice Fields. The trip up the Icefields Parkway was spectacular, easily worth the trip by itself. We took a tour on one of those big-wheeled busses, traveling out onto the lower pediment of the glacial field. Quite a site. On the way back we took the short ride out to Moraine Lake. Truth be told, it looked like a landslide-created lake, but quite beautiful.
We just finished a fine fondu dinner here at the chateau. Tomorrow we ride westward again.
- Michael
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07-14-2009, 08:53 AM
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Roads and Railroads & Passes to Revelstoke
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Our ride out of Lake Louise towards Kamloops was invigorating on several fronts. While I am not a formal railroad buff, the subject does interest me. The early pioneer history of British Columbia, as the case with much of the West, was driven by the progress of the Railroad over these inhospitable mountains.
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Prehistoric people never lived in the central Selkirks. The rugged mountains and harsh climate made agriculture impossible. Deep winter snows restrict populations of game animals so Indians could not rely on them for food. Avalanches were a threat to travellers much of the year. The prehistoric relationship between man and the land was a simple one - it was no man's land.
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from a post by a true railroad fan, whose article is full of interesting tidbits.
From the subtext of the exhibits we have viewed, those railroads were usually "driven" by the lure of mineral rights, and a bit of competition between the US and the fledgling Canada.
The Trans-Canadian Highway is undergoing a 1 Billion-Dollar upgrade as it passes over Laughing Horse Pass. At the Visitor's Center in Golden there are several dioramas and displays of the work. Truly monumental. I will attach a photo of one of the bridges that has been completed.
When the Canadian-Pacific Railroad was financed by the Canadian Government, 10 years were spent finding a route that "worked". Late in the game the route was still in flux when Major A.B. Rogers identified a solution. He was mtivated by the CPR's offer to name any viable route after the discoverer, along with a $5,000 reward. Well, the pass is named "Rogers", but he reportedly did not cash the check. Unfortunately, while the pass offered passage, the steep slope on either side provided a constant downpour of snow avalanches during the long winters, leading the CPR to shed most of the track through the area. By 1916 the pass was abandoned when the Connaught Tunnel was completed under the mountain, only to be re-opened much later by the Trans-Canadian Highway.
Kathy and I spent some time at the Pass summit, where we had lunch and visited the Glacier National Park information center. That's where our Spider met the Grizzly bear.
Next up was the Meadows-in-the-Sky Parkway, which climbs out of Revelstoke. The 26 KM parkway was built (gasp) in 1914-1917, as a pet project of the local townspeople. They continue to view the wondrous road to the 6360-ft top of Revelstoke Mountain as "their park". Now, it seems like most mountain-climbing "park" roads in the US were built in the 1930's as WPA projects.
We kept a respectful pace up and down the mountain in our Spider, but nevertheless had a blast dealing with the 20 or more sharp hairpin corners. These were marked as "20KM/Hr" and they meant it. The corners looked to be laid out with the same template, as their radius were virtually all identical, only varying L-vs-R hand and grade on entry and exit. The road bed was smooth and encouraged 2nd-gear punch out. Kathy took a few short videos, and I will try to add one here later for your pleasure.
Only scare so far with the Spider was at the top, where she did not want to idle in the parking lot. After I parked, Kathy noted a humming/wheezing noise continuing, and it turned out to be the gas tank relieve valve. Seems I gained too much elevation too quickly for the system to cope with, so I opened the gas cap and "whosh"; everything was fine again.
Up at the top we took a 2-3 KM hike to view the scenery. Spectacular. An Indian stands watch over the view. ( Link to big panorama) At the summit is one of the few remaining fire tower buildings in Canada.
We are staying at a wonderful hotel just east of Kamloops. Talking Rock Resort. Our waitress at dinner was kind enough to explain one mystery that has befuddled us. We were talking about how nice the roads and traffic has been - generally, at least.
She observed that all British Columbians are painfully aware of the bad road habits of the "Flatlanders" from Alberta and eastward. "Watch out for those red plates". They are very adept at running above the speed limit IN A STRAIGHT LINE . Throw them a curve in the road and they panic, slowing down to a crawl. If you are trapped behind one of them on the curvy no-pass sections, you have virtually no hope of passing them when the road straightens out. That has happened several times to us.
We had an opportunity to run the Spider up a long grade at "well" over the speed limit yesterday to escape one of those idiots. Thankfully we have the HP, revs and the gearing to do it, and the hill was steep enough to leave the stupid Mazda far behind.
Now we continue westward towards Vancouver, using the less-traveled northerly route recommended to us. The Spider is handing our abuse in fine fashion, and we just washed her again to show our a appreciation.
- Michael
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07-14-2009, 05:59 PM
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Michael,
I've been following your posts every day. This is an awesome thread and you've taken some great pictures. This trip is also going on my list.
Glad you're having fun.
Michael.
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