About Collis and Giorgiettis, please check it out
This is insane
(and the following page)
There is a terrible confusion about that car, as you can see....
I try to add some news, taken from the Web:
Giulia Promiscua Colli
"Milan coachbuilder Carrozzeria Colli (1932-73) will be best remembered (if it is remembered at all) for the Alfa Romeo Giulia Super estate cars it produced in the mid '60s. Just 16 were built: most were for the Italian police and army, while the remaining examples were used as service barges by European Alfa Dealer Team racers in Belgium, France and, of course, Italy, who at that time were campaigning GTA and GTAms. Most of the 16 had their rear side windows panelled in and all had folding rear seats and a proper lift-up tailgate. Most used stock running gear - a 1600 cc, twin-cam engine with a five-speed gearbox - but at least one had the lustier 1750 engine and bigger brakes from the V8-engined Montreal coupe. Two right-hookers came to the UK to be used by dealers. One is currently being restored for a Japanese collector who runs an estate-car museum in Japan, but the other has long since been destroyed."
And also:
"Numbers are harder to come by on the 105 wagons. Fusi gives sixteen as the number of Giulia Super Promiscuas, 5 lhd + 1 rhd in 1968 and 9 lhd + 1 rhd in 1969. Most of the Collis were T.I.s rather than Supers, and no source I have gives numbers. They were used by the police and by other government offices and also as service vehicles by Alfa distributors and major dealers. A discussion I had with a Dutch dealer, who stated firmly that his Giulia wagon had been built in his own body shop, together with a text statement in d'Amico & Tabucchi that they were also produced on commission by other coachbuilders, suggests to me that Colli not only built some complete cars but also made up kits of the special stampings for others to use in building wagons out of standard Giulia Berlinas. Variable quality-control of kit-built T.I. wagons could account for Alfa doing the later handful of Supers in-house. The how many? question remains unanswered; I would guess something between two hundred and five hundred for government and service vehicles, with probably none offered for sale to walk-in customers, who could still get them from coachbuilders if wanted. "
And again:
"The Giulia Giardinetta seems to have been the rarest Giulia derivative in that only about 100 or so examples were actually converted by Colli. The initial version was based on the chrome grilled Giulia TI & the Giulia 1300 & was probably aimed at the general public in that it was fully glazed & equippped with folding rear seats etc as a normal station wagon, as shown in Fusi. The rear tailgate was full length & extended as far as the rear bumper, the normal rear panel being part of the tailgate. I saw an example for sale in Belgium in about '94 & I believe that the car is now in Switzerland. I have seen only one sales brochure for this model & that was a Colli publication. Unlike the earlier Giulietta model, no reference is made to the Giardinetta in the Giulia Parts Book. The majority of the Colli Giulia Giardinetta production was for the Police & Customs & were half car/half van in that the side panel behind the rear door was sheet steel with ventilation louvres. Later versions had a shorter tailgate which extended only so far as the usual saloon rear panel which was retained (for increased structural rigidity?).
The Colli conversions were carried out with factory approval/co- operation & used a complete new roof panel produced by Colli. Most were based on the 105.26 series Super, although some were fitted with a Solex downdraught carb as per the TI! Whereas most italian small volume productions & conversions used production windscreens etc from other current makes or models, the Colli Giardinetta tailgate glass seems to be a special produced just for this model. The tailgate was incredibly heavy & seemed mismatched to the slender curved external hinges. Alfa Romeo also offerred the Giardinetta to it's importers & dealers in many countries. Two RHD examples came into the UK in about '68 & were used as an express delivery van & by the technical manager of ARGB, one of these is believed to survive in a rather rough state awaiting restoration.
There were also many unofficial conversions carried out by local carrozerie for Police forces who would buy a standard Super from their local & have it converted in the style of the Colli version. To complicate matters even further, I have seen two examples of what appear to be genuine Colli conversions which were based on the Nuova Super...... The Giardinetta which I owned was produced in Jan '71, with hanging pedals & the shorter tailgate is now in Portugal & is likely to return to the road this year.
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http://www.pestalozzi.net/sb/alfa_gi...a_gallery.html )."
After 1969, few hundreds of wagon were built by Carrozzeria Giorgetti in Montecatini, with some minor differences (three air vents on the rear side panels, different shape of the rear door and of its pivots, etc). I think that the one for sale in Holland is one of them.
I hope that all is a little bit more clear..
Ciao
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Christer
