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post #16 of 36 (permalink) Old 10-29-2016, 07:42 AM
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thats a nice looking car. looks great with the steel wheels and hubcaps. if its in good shape it would be a terrific choice.
i mentioned earlier, the 1st series cars have different springs and a slightly lower stance. some people swap series 1 front springs into series 2 cars for lower ride height. rear springs are not interchangeable between the series as s1 have different mountings. other ways to change ride height is to change the rubber buffer that connects the front spring to the a-arms. there are suppliers for these in various heights. as is usually the case, the factory setup is probably best.
the rear ride height is set using weight in the boot before tightening the fittings. of course the arch of the spring plays a big role as well.

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The only real difference is the leva lunga of the 1st series 4-speed versus the more 'modern' vertical stick of the S2 5-speed; that comes down to personal preference.
Glad to see Ed chime in!

Having owned both a S1 1.2 "Leva Lunga" 4-speed and my current 1600HF Lusso with the dogleg 5-speed I greatly prefer the 4-speed gearbox. It's really lovely to use, while the 5-speed is merely functional. Jaan Hjorth is one of the few Fulvia specialists in the US and he also prefers the 4-speed:

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With regards to the engine the 1.6 is substantially more powerful than the 1.2, obviously. In my opinion the stock 1.6 in my HF feels comparable to a stock Alfa 2L, while the 1.2 was similar to my 1300 Normale Giulietta in feel. Lovely to drive but undeniably slow. The 1.3 would certainly be better but more similar to the 1.2 than the 1.6, I would guess.

As I'm sure you know the 1.6 does carry a major price premium over the smaller engines, and are far rarer. If I were to go about buying another Fulvia I'd likely go for a S1 1.3S, with the more powerful 1.3L engine and 4-speed gearbox.

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Love your daughter's choice. I prefer early cars, as early as possible and therefore am a fan of the aluminium cars. Those go for $40 - $50k and up and are more fragile. Otherwise, my choice would be a S1 1.3S as others have indicated. I would not mind too much a 1.3 though either for the right car in the right condition and colors (Or a 1.2 for a very early one TBH). I think that the Zagatos lost a lot of the crucial detail from the 2nd series on. And really, the details make this car.

I do not believe that the 1.6 bring a tremendous premium, if any at all. Yes, they are rare but they are also considered the "ugliest" Sport, with loss of the chrome/ stainless details, different lights, loss of spare wheel compartment, blacked-out grille (Not a fan of that at all) and different wheels. And I agree with Ed's driving impressions.

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. . . I prefer early cars, as early as possible and therefore am a fan of the aluminium cars. . .
I agree, but you won´t believe how much difference it makes, if a person born in 2001 looks at these things compared to one of the early sixties.

The early cars do not have servobrakes, that is no problem for me, but 5 speed and servo clearly speak for the younger car. On the other hand I have a couple of Flavia and Flaminia boosters on the shelf.

We have an inspection date of the light green one this morning, ....keep you informed!


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Quick decision. I bought this 1.3S 818.650 today. The colour is a light green, although the sellers says the name would be "giallo something". Have not found out the Zagato colours yet.

And the wheels! An additional set of steel rims comes with the car. First impression was, that the wheels do not at all fit to the car, but they are not as common as the Cromodoras.

The end silencer has been replaced by a tube, it is much louder than a regular car, but one could say that the sound fits to its appearance. In my opinion a car should not be loud and i am planning to replace the tube but my daughter asked me to pick her up at school with the actual sound at least once!!!

It is a fantastic ride


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Congratulations! The color is very nice and personally I love the Campagnolo Ragno wheels.

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Congratulations! Although the photos are a little washed out, the color appears to be Giallo Maia (Glasurit LAN 234), a yellowish green that falls somewhere between chartreuse and pale olive.

BTW, the wheels aren't Campagnolo 'Ragno'; they're Melber.

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I just have to keep telling myself this is a girl and not a boy we're talking about when I check in on this thread. My son is 15 and he gives me flashbacks of myself at 16. He's fortunately not nearly as wild as I was, but still. My first car was a Lancia and while I managed some high-speed spins without hitting anything and only dented it a couple of times, it really would have been better if I'd been driving a Volvo. OTOH, if I'd had a Volvo i might have hit something at high speed that I managed to miss in my Lancia!

She's a lucky girl - assuming she is able to pry the keys out of your hands after driving it for a year and a half!

edit: ooohhhhh - missed the "I bought one!" post while I was composing the above. Congratulations - what a beauty!

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Very nice ! I hope your daughter realizes how extraordinarily fortunate she is, to have both a Lancia Zagato and a talented low-cost mechanic.

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looks great hubert,
nice looking car for sure. quick note on the melber wheels, i heard on another forum the melbers are not road legal in germany. not sure if this is true, or why there may be a problem, but may be good to check out.
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by the way, i also run without the rear silencer. sounds great, but i admit it's a bit loud...

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wow lovely car. it is not a car previously been registered in Belgium??
if so it could be my dads old car. was originally a German car but dad bought it in the mid-late eighties and drove it for many years.

I read all the comments made and all have valid points.
I learned to drive in a series 1 1.3S sport in the mid eighties and we still have the car in our family although it needs some work to make it roadworthy again. we also have 2 1600 sports and a 1.3 monte carlo.

from an art perspective I prefer the earlier cars as well but I agree that the 1600 has much more torque/power. the early engines though run. rev much sweeter though, bit like a sewing machine.

Alfa's are no different.. I run my giulietta spider with a 65 giulia engine and my dads giulietta still runs the original engine.
A world of difference. I can keep up with the 1600 sport ( just) but I could not with the 1300.
My choice would also be influenced by my location. In NZ where we have no motorways but really awesome country roads a 5 speed/overdrive is not so important so a 4 peed car is great. especially the lovely feel of the fulvia 4 speed box.

However if you live in the USA or Europe and drive on motorways the 5 speed is a nice option although not a must.

My first series coupe I had in my early twenties ran like a dream and the sweet spot was about 140km/h although a little tap on the accelerator and it would keep on going. Lovely cars and I would love to keep the 1st series sport but not sure that will happen. too many cars/projects and not enough space/time so some have to go.

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wow lovely car. it is not a car previously been registered in Belgium??
if so it could be my dads old car. was originally a German car but dad bought it in the mid-late eighties and drove it for many years.
I just talked to Ulrich (the seller) and he confirmed that the car was first registered in Germany, than moved to Belgium and stayed in a collection there. When the owner moved to NZ (must have been your father) Ulrich bought it from him (or maybe from the person who bought it from your father?). It resided in the area of Aachen.

It is exciting to get in touch with part of the car´s history. If you don´t mind I will contact you once the car has arrived on "The Farm"


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and the mechanic brings along the required spares for free!

Some minor work will have to be done. E.g, the fuse of the lifter motor melts every now and then, and the carbs will need some attention. . .

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Hubert, if you ever consider to adopt a son of your age with a good knowledge and interest in old cars, please let me know about it.
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...However if you live in the USA or Europe and drive on motorways the 5 speed is a nice option although not a must....
It makes no real difference, as the 5-speed doesn't have overdrive gearing. With either the 4-speed or the 5-speed, top gear is direct.

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