A Zagato like no other! - Page 8

**akitaman** · #**106** (**permalink**) 08-22-2007, 07:29 AM

Hi Rafano. Yes this is exactly what I needed. Thank you very much.

Daron

**akitaman** · #**107** (**permalink**) 08-25-2007, 09:04 AM

One can see Rafano's pictures are important....

Same area but from inside the car where a "patch piece" once was.

And with the damaged section out.

If you look carefully you can see the many layers of "patches" that were done over the years.

Boy, do we have some fun stuff in front of us!

arvorio 105 · #**108** (**permalink**) 08-26-2007, 05:54 AM

Goodness gracious me Akitaman, that's absolutely FECKED

Do you think perhaps this particular Lancia was used in some period photo shoot where the car is driven along a glamorous beachfront through the pounding surf or something?? Oh dear!

Do those brackets attached to that "patinated" piece of italian coachbuilding you have clamped in the vice have to be fabbed too or can you re use them?

You and the Vintage Customs staff have my utmost admiration. Once again, keep up the amazing work!

AllthingsZagato · #**109** (**permalink**) 08-26-2007, 08:15 AM

Incredible when you look back to the original shots of the car. it did not look to bad!

**akitaman** · #**110** (**permalink**) 08-26-2007, 08:16 AM

Hi Arvorio. Yes we can and will, reuse the brackets. And I think that is all we can use. As for why the damage is this extensive, the way Lancia framed up the car is the reason. The effort was for light weight construction. This meant lots of box framing with light gauge steel, instead of heaver gauge cast or forged parts. There are lots of box with in a box design here too. This is a breading ground for rust. Although we are going to reproduce it as it was, we will be using metal etch primer on the inside and lots of cavity wax too.

**akitaman** · #**111** (**permalink**) 08-26-2007, 08:24 AM

I agree, we said the same thing. "It doesn't look THAT bad". Personally, I love getting into them this deep. I wish it was Monday so I could go in and start building the bits needed.

PSk · #**112** (**permalink**) 08-27-2007, 03:56 PM

Man am I glad I am not a Lancia fan ... the owner should give your team life membership to a shrink for fixing that!!

But I cannot wait for the progress pics ...

Pete

Rafano · #**113** (**permalink**) 08-28-2007, 08:27 AM

Hello akitamen!

Those Flaminias look all the same after 40 years-)
Here two more pics. I strengthened the bodywork with a frame-pipe construction (20 mm x 20 mm x 2 mm) which is connected at one end to the sill and at the other side to a single frame-pipe (60 mm x 40 mm x 2 mm) which connects left and right side. Was not that easy job -))
Good bend, weld and hammer - RAFANO

**akitaman** · #**114** (**permalink**) 08-30-2007, 08:02 PM

Wow Rafano! We have the same idea. We plan on using square tubing as well, instead of the complex inverted oval channel that is prone to rusting and trapping moisture.

We carefully started the building of the first system today.

Old:

Beginning of the new:

BRUCE · #**115** (**permalink**) 09-09-2007, 06:40 AM

Your skills are extraordinary.

**akitaman** · #**116** (**permalink**) 09-12-2007, 08:29 PM

The top section of the part were building is taking shape.

It still needs to be formed on the perimeter, but it's getting there.

**Repidodave** · #**117** (**permalink**) 09-15-2007, 07:41 PM

Akitaman.... I'm sure you are aware by now that the October issue of Hemmings 'Sports & Imports features a 1963 Flaminia Sport Zagato 3C. It is on the cover.
If not aware I would be more than happy to send you my copy.
Dave

**akitaman** · #**118** (**permalink**) 09-15-2007, 08:03 PM

Is it in the stores now? Because I would go get one in the morning.

**Repidodave** · #**119** (**permalink**) 09-16-2007, 11:33 AM

Daron.........To be honest not sure were to fine it... maybe Barns & Nobel.
I've subscribed to Hemmings for many years and only learned of this mag from them recently. Again if your unable to locate a copy I'll send you mine no big deal as I don't keep back issues.

180OUT · #**120** (**permalink**) 09-16-2007, 07:59 PM

Daron,

Well, you've certainly made a believer out of me. You are doing genuinely first quality work on this car. You just have to wonder how many times in the past it had some paint slapped on it and sold on . . .

Have you taken the windshields out yet? I presume you have. The reason I ask is that the Zagato method of fitting windshields is unique (as I'm sure you've discovered) to Zagatos. I found 'one' article on the subject a number of years ago and, of course, promptly lost it. I know the aluminum surround is used to essentially wedge the glass in place, but that's about the extent of what I know. The windshield issue is one of those obscure but important pieces of information that is essential to restoring Zagato bodied cars so I'm sure you'll get around to it in time.

This is probably the most complete photo record ever done of a Flaminia Zagato restoration.

It was good talking to you at the Concourso. It was also good to meet Max and Sarah.