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Some backwork, the first set of components has been cleaned and powder coated. Part of them will be backup for repairs of the other cars.
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Manufactured the first big panel. To punch the grooves I made a small mould. The panel is not fixed yet, will have to make the small webplates first.
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Webplates ready to install, made a nice little tool to fold them all identically
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Very nice work Tedesco

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Some backwork, the first set of components has been cleaned and powder coated. Part of them will be backup for repairs of the other cars.
Looks like you have parts from 3 Flaminia's there....!
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That is right. Here they are.

Should have placed them on ebay!!!


Perhaps the fork lift was too much for the light blue Coupé


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A lot of work, virtually no progress.

It took some days to prepare the panels. The "profile taker (?)" is a very helpful tool. (There are up to five segments that can be connected)


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Hubert, how are you shrinking that flange on the radius - tucking fork , or have you got a shrinker/stretcher? Great work by the way.

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Richard, I have a shrinker/stretcher but also used a small tool I made on the milling machine to get the step properly shaped.

First I folded a strip of about 5 cm and stretched that until the base panel was plain again.

Then the fin was bent and afterwards shrunk until it was roughly right.

Finally the finishing was made by means of the special tool.

The C-frame device is a combined machine, below shrinker/stretcher and pneumatic planishing hammer top.

I have also modified an old small shrinker/stretcher to achieve more working depth.

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It is always good to see how others do their forming as I often pick up tips or alternative ways of doing things. Is that a combined shrinker/stretcher and planishing tool in photo 4?
They are versions I haven`t seen before. Are they German?
I`m not as capital intensive as you in that all my forming, shrinking, planishing etc is done by hand and it does take a while unfortunately but a shrinker/stretcher may be the next purchase.
Admire the work, and of course the car you are working on.

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Some more panels in place. The lower strip has been spot welded. That is really easy, as long as the spot welder is set up correctly. If not, the spots look beautiful but will jump open if stressed.

Richard,

the planishing hammer and shrinker/stretcher is from Eckold a Swiss/German company.

Here in Europe their "Kraftformer" is regarded to be the ultimate machine for single or small series panel forming. The price for these machines is prohibitive.http://www.eckold.com/en-us/home.aspx

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Left rear wheel housing under construction

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Fitted the drain pipes to the sill, ths time made out of copper instead of mild steel.

Roughly made the wheel housing, (the covering panel between fender and the housing is still missing). In order to fit it properly, the fender should serve as fixing point. Unfortunately the fender also needs a lot of work before it can be used. But it is flexing by only looking at it, so I am afraid of welding panels in. Does anyone have an advice?

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Hubert, I am concerned about galvanic corrosion of the steel around that copper pipe. I don't see how you could sufficiently isolate the metals to avoid this.

FYI the 3B Pininfarina coupe that Donald Osborne had restored by Wayne Carini is for sale at Gooding's Scottsdale auction: 1963 Lancia Flaminia 3B Coupe | Gooding & Company, Rescue Me--Flaminia PF on Ebay.

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Hubert, have you got a gas welder? I would weld that fender repair using a gas weld. If you tack first it will eliminate distortion and as you can get behind the panel there is no problem anyway. There will be almost nil distortion in fact I have welded with basically none. The gas weld can be planished very easily - can be done without using filler rod. I have seen but haven't used it yet a dough like sustance that absorbs heat and minmises any distortion which is an added insurance in case you are not confident. It is recommended for any type of welding or brazing. As long as you have support under that panel and the two pieces are held by magnets, or little clamps there shouldn`t be a problem.

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