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Old 11-01-2009, 05:53 AM
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Odd Italian prototype

I grew up in Turin and used to live on the same street as the Auto Show, which I visited often. I remember a very odd car, in the early sixties, which had the look of a flying saucer, had (if I remember right) three seats up front (one, plus two staggered) and one wheel at the front, two wheels in the middle and one wheel at the back. It may sound confusing, but I was about ten years old when I saw it. It was shown in the "Carrozzieri" section of the show. Can anyone help identify the car, given my rather nebulous description?
Thanks in advance!
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Old 11-01-2009, 06:36 AM
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Actually, thanks to the INternet, I found a picture of this car: it's the one with the large tailfins, seen behind the Moretti in this picture.
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/ind...;id=7405;image
The picture is taken from a post on the autopuzzles website: I hope this is not a problem; if so, I ask the Admins to remove it, with my sincere apologies.

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I grew up in Turin and used to live on the same street as the Auto Show, which I visited often.
lucky boy!

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I remember a very odd car, in the early sixties, which had the look of a flying saucer, had
Both cars Pininfarina design, "Berlina Aerodynamica" named "X" ( Engine Fiat 1100 ) on the right side in the back of the Moretti. ( first time presented Turin 1960 )

And a little bit covered behind the Moretti; Modello " Y " Vettura Sperimentale, based on fiat 600 D ( first time shown Autosalone Torino 1961)


My guess, picture taken at Autosalon Brussels 1961.
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Both cars Pininfarina design, "Berlina Aerodynamica" named "X" ( Engine Fiat 1100 ) on the right side in the back of the Moretti. ( first time presented Turin 1960 )

And a little bit covered behind the Moretti; Modello " Y " Vettura Sperimentale, based on fiat 600 D ( first time shown Autosalone Torino 1961)


My guess, picture taken at Autosalon Brussels 1961.
Many thanks!
I believe the picture was taken in the small section of the Salone di Torino dedicated to coachbuilders (underground floor).
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This one. CD of 0.23. Very strange prototype indeed.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:31 AM
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This one. CD of 0.23. Very strange prototype indeed.
My memory is very vague (I was 10!), but I thought thee car I saw had four wheels (in a diamond pattern) and not three and three seats up front (or one plus two, staggered). I remember the car at the Torino auto show was light green. I seem to remember that the coachbuilder was OSCA, but I am not sure.
Did OSCA ever made a car similar to the one in the pictures?
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Hey TIA

please do a very close look at the pictures!

3 or 4 wheels?

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Pininfarina design & coachbuilding.
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please do a very close look at the pictures!

3 or 4 wheels?



Pininfarina design & coachbuilding.
I see! Thanks!!!
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Has an air of Vignale's 'Goccia' Abarth about it. The rear must have been outstandingly ugly, as I've never seen a picture of it. Does anyone know what powered these prototypes?

Looks like the basement of Salone di Torino was the place to be...look at those cars! Is that a Pininfarina Cadillac behaind the Moretti, the one that looked like a giant Peugeot 204? Mmmm...only one thing better than a coachbuilt car, is LOTS of coachbuilt car.
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Hmmmh

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(and the 1957 Vignale/Michelotti Abarth 750 has an air of ..... )
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May be that

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But the

Maybach 1939, W. D. Teague 1938, Stout Scarab 1936, Tatra 57 1932 and the 1928 Martin have an air of ...
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Did you by any change attend the 1971 Turin motorshow, the year the Alfasud was introduced?



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I grew up in Turin and used to live on the same street as the Auto Show, which I visited often. I remember a very odd car, in the early sixties, which had the look of a flying saucer, had (if I remember right) three seats up front (one, plus two staggered) and one wheel at the front, two wheels in the middle and one wheel at the back. It may sound confusing, but I was about ten years old when I saw it. It was shown in the "Carrozzieri" section of the show. Can anyone help identify the car, given my rather nebulous description?
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Did you by any change attend the 1971 Turin motorshow, the year the Alfasud was introduced?
NO, in 1971 I was in the US doing my flight training.
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Maybe you saw this already...

Pininfarina "X"



When the scientific research is combined with an original and revolutionary shape.

The rhomboid arrangement of the four wheels and the exceptional dray coefficient (CD=0,23) allowed to obtain, with the same performance (Fiat engine 1089 cmc), higher top speed and lower consumption.

Introduced 1960 (Turin Motor Show)
Manufactured 1960 body type 4 door saloon

Dimensions
Wheelbase: (front) 2070 mm
Length: wheelbase (rear) 970 mm
Width: length 4300 mm
Height: width 1715 mm

Technical Specifications
Rear Fiat offset 4 cylinder engine
1089 cm3, 43 hp at 4800 rpm
4 speed gearbox, drive on the rear wheel

Units produced: 1
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