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Old 04-30-2011, 08:44 AM
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When gas hits $8 a gallon, we'd better have decent public transportation like the rest of the world!
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:53 AM
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Hey everybody, I have an idea: why don't we build so dang many nuclear power plants that the only way to use their capacity is to practically give the power away.

Doesn't that sound like a good idea?
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So I would rather get taxed for funds to build non-fossil fuel power generation infrastructure.

Does anyone agree? If not, why not?
Nuclear was a key "solution" in Obummers Crap and Trade bill too, along with hot air of wind and solar. For anyone babbling about fixing an imaginary problem by building nuclear plants, perhaps you will watch this:



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When gas hits $8 a gallon, we'd better have decent public transportation like the rest of the world!
Right. MT is good in Japan, etc, where population density is soooo bad, people kinda live on top of each other.

You must have a min threshold pop density for MT to work. In the USA, which has painted itself into a corner, thanks to Eisenhower and his highway system, for better or worse, MT will never work except for metro areas. One author (I read alot) called the highway system and its suburbs it serves as the biggest misallocation of resources in human history. That is big.
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Hehe.....now, with the recent wave of tornados, the greens and some weathermen are blaming Climate change (GW). So, the last record year for tornados-1974- did that happen cuz of GW? I remember Nixon being warned by his advisors that those days in the early 70's were expecting a new ice age. So global cooling AND global warming both cause tornadoes, right????????!
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Old 05-24-2011, 06:39 AM
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As we all know, severe wind and electrical storms are caused by warm, moist air from the Gulf of Mexico mixing with cold air coming over the Rocky Mountains. The latter has been made cooler by increased volcanic action in Alaska and the Kamchatka, as well as by a cooling "Nino".

The greater the temperature difference, the greater the storms.

It's absurd that the hysterical crowd still stays with two-dimensional modelling that attempts to tie temperature change to CO2--only.

People around the world do not need a new controlling catechism based upon a "new" version of the Old Testament.
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It's absurd that the hysterical crowd still stays with two-dimensional modelling that attempts to tie temperature change to carbon--only.
That statement is not true. Current modeling efforts incorporate CO2 plus other greenhouse gases that collectively are as important as CO2, plus particulates that range from sulfates (cooling) to black carbon (warming).
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Old 05-24-2011, 07:31 AM
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Changed it to CO2--it always seems easier to type carbon--don't have to use the shift key.

The "modeling" has mainly focused upon CO2.

In 1971, the versatile James E. Hansen got his start as a media
"scientist" by associating with the crowd that was fearful that carbon in particulate form was causing global cooling. Prolly harvested some grant money.

More recently Hansen has been solid that particulate carbon is contributing to global warming.
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It's absurd that the hysterical crowd still stays with two-dimensional modelling that attempts to tie temperature change to CO2--only.

People around the world do not need a new controlling catechism based upon a "new" version of the Old Testament.
I agree completely. That is why the hysterical crowd's frequent references to the fact that historical rises in global temp precede rises in CO2 as proof against AGW, is too simplistic.
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In this discussion there has only been one hysterical crowd and that has been the one demanding to cure the health of the planet by severe political control.

"What I challenge you to do is to see whether there is a legal way of throwing our so-called leaders into jail because what they are going is a criminal act."

This was by Dr. David Suzuki, a biologist, in an attack upon politicians who were not acting quickly enough on "warming" to ease his personal hysteria.

--National Post, Feb 7/08 on a public meeting in Montreal. Suzuki also called indifference to his message an "intergenerational crime".
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In this discussion there has only been one hysterical crowd and that has been the one demanding to cure the health of the planet by severe political control.
Not sure if you are referring to the whole issue of AGW by "in this discussion" or something more specific. However, I would argue that those who believe that this is all simply a plot by evil government forces to strip away all individual rights toward a goal of destroying mankind might be labelled equally hysterical.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Not sure if you are referring to the whole issue of AGW by "in this discussion" or something more specific. However, I would argue that those who believe that this is all simply a plot by evil government forces to strip away all individual rights toward a goal of destroying mankind might be labelled equally hysterical.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
No need to disagree--in small "l" liberal politics as used to prevail, government exists at the pleasure of the people. The AGW promotion is working to reverse that to "the people exist at the pleasure of the government." As in "Do as I say, or else!"

A review of political history suggests that any experiment in authoritarian government will eventually go for full control and social disaster.

In two thousand years there has only been 3 great experiments in authoritarian government in the senior economy.

Third Century, Sixteenth Century and the past one hundred years.

This one is, thankfully, coming to an end as the public recognizes the promotional nature of today's statists.
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The church just down the street has a sign:

"Pray for thy Canucks until thy cup runneth over."

So far, so good.
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