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Missed our chance to call in with questions on the subject. Warming that is.

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ok, guys....CO2 is not an issue. The real, most prevelant geenhouse gas in the atmosphere is water vapor. Man made global warming is a hoax. The science backing it is not only flawed, but fabricated and misconstrued. Watch this funny video on global warming for dummies:

The Global Warming Hoax Explained for Dummies - YouTube

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RAndy, I see you mentioned critical thinking. I am somewhat of a critical thinker and enjoy such reading. However, reading back through your arguments I don't see good examples of critical thinking. Just my 2 cents.

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Weather forecast for London:

Sunday June 4th - Max Temp 10C
Monday June 5th - Max Temp 11C

and it's only a few days before the nights start drawing in!

We have also had the coldest April for years and in 2009/10 & 2010/11 two of the coldest winters on record.

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OK, here's a real simple question: how is basing our entire civilization upon an ever-diminishing energy source, fossil fuels, sustainable? I THINK it is not. If you disagree, please explain how it possibly can be sustainable.
Randy, a critical thinker would realize that is not a simple question.

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OK, here's a real simple question: how is basing our entire civilization upon an ever-diminishing energy source, fossil fuels, sustainable? I THINK it is not. If you disagree, please explain how it possibly can be sustainable.
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As I've noted before, in 1865 England's leading economist had a personal revelation that the world was about to run out of coal. He supported the notion with extensive calculations of reserves down to a mineable depth of 4,000 feet.

He was very concerned that as the coal, which was the main energy source, ran out civilization would collapse back to a "subsistence" level.

His book "The Coal Question" was published in 1865 and included the advice that it took a certain intellect to understand the issue and that it was almost a religious experience.

This is included in a piece I published in 2008. It can be Googled as "Intellectual Hysteria".

Since then the revolution in tapping into oil and gas shales is developing an extraordinary increase in energy reserves. Problem is that maniacal governments still want to push uneconomic concepts about wind turbines and solar cells.

On the later compulsion about "sustainability", relief is in sight. Governments, most everywhere have reached the limit of wealth confiscation via taxation and currency depreciation. The public is becoming aware that governments have run out of money in promoting uneconomic interventions.

In so many words, "sustainable" politics has become unsustainable economics.

The madness of government inspired nightmares is coming to an end.


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Until they come up with the next "panic"....

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I saw on tv yesterday that the Navy was suspending some operations near Alaska due to severe ice. Didn't catch all of that story, but here is another good one on the same subject: Global Warming | Icy Seas

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I saw on tv yesterday that the Navy was suspending some operations near Alaska due to severe ice. Didn't catch all of that story, but here is another good one on the same subject: Global Warming | Icy Seas
Maybe this will be the problem when the ice melts?

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Question Running Out Of Energy

Not this year.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/christop...nov-shale-oil/


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Interesting data study: Home
Since governments are such known sources of corruption, you can take part on your own dime, no grants or funding expected! About
What a novel new idea, removing the problem with science.

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post #1798 of 2037 (permalink) Old 06-22-2012, 05:37 PM Thread Starter
Why do some people think that if they take an idea, strip away all of the original idea's context, structure, and content, and then take what is left as if it was somehow magically the same as the original idea and show that the stripped and corroded shell of an idea is false, they have somehow demonstrated that the original idea is false? Why?

Can someone enlighten me as to this aspect of human psychology? To me it seems self destructive, for the person who does this must at some level believe the lie he or she constructs. Once one starts believing one's own lies one is doomed.

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I think I can Randy! A gent passed this to me at a rest area as we admired each others bumper stickers, but I think you need it more than I do.
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