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08-07-2011 05:40 PM
Gary Williams Okay, Elvi, but a bunch of them parachuting in to the historics would be fun. I understand Nicholas Gage is badly in need of money, so maybe he would consent to do a reprise of his famous movie role.
08-07-2011 05:27 PM
RC Hiatt It's Elvi, Gary and this ones cape fell off mid song, so he best stay close to terra fermi (a glass of ferma for everyone and some look like they just woke up from a dirt nap)
08-07-2011 05:19 PM
Gary Williams Parachuting Elvises?
08-07-2011 03:17 PM
RC Hiatt
Jake the Alligator Man's birthday and wedding

Cost for this party and car show was only $20 bucks and the bride was so cute! You can't find this kind of music at the Historics for twice the price.

Now if the historics want to pull in a bigger crowd, they need to invite a few more clubs and an Elvis in red sneakers!
08-04-2011 11:49 PM
Gary Williams My Dad was a Lockheed engineer. He needed a work car and I had cash saved from an assortment of after school jobs. By allowing me to buy my own car long before I could get a license, he not only got the transportation he was looking for, he eliminated any possibility I'd wreck or misuse his car.
08-04-2011 11:02 PM
RC Hiatt My car salesman dad tried that with me too. In fact he paid $50 to crush a great 1949 Buick 2 dr straight 8 trade in, rather than let me have it. I had to learn to drive in a miliary jeep and was given a 53 Chev ugly 4 door, much like this one, along with lots of practice on the sly.

I got even and took his brand new 62 and 63 Impala and many others for regular 150 mile joy rides to Walla Walla. He never found out, or never mentioned it, including the one during the Columbus day storm, a year before I had a license. If they were smarter, some never let on.
08-04-2011 10:56 PM
Gary Williams
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Hmmmm....the older we get, the smarter they were!!!
No kidding. While I was 15, he found another car for me to buy that he "thought would be better for me." It was a 1953 Dodge Red Ram V8 (the small hemi) with 3 spd manual. Same deal, but I got to drive it around the block when my Mom wasn't home.
08-04-2011 07:02 PM
Nicola
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My first car was a 1951 Pontiac two-door, with a straight 8. I didn't get to drive it, being a bit shy of 15, but my Dad taught me to tune it, polish it, and admire the lines as he drove it to work. Pretty smart, wasn't he. I bought the car with my own hard-earned funds ... he drove it.
Hmmmm....the older we get, the smarter they were!!!
08-04-2011 06:19 PM
Gary Williams That's a nice looking old timer. I'd enjoy seeing it lumber through the chicane ahead of a pack of screaming Corinas.

My first car was a 1951 Pontiac two-door, with a straight 8. I didn't get to drive it, being a bit shy of 15, but my Dad taught me to tune it, polish it, and admire the lines as he drove it to work. Pretty smart, wasn't he. I bought the car with my own hard-earned funds and kept it up; he drove it.
08-04-2011 04:33 PM
RC Hiatt
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A weekend pass, with parking, was $55. If your car has a large trunk, you can get two in for that price, the way some senior citizens used to do at the drive in movie.

Not confessing mind you, but you'd be surprised how much room there was in a '57 Plymouth.
I couldn't fit a dismembered midget in the trunk of the 72 spider, especially with the trunk rust where it would fall through, so I traded it today for a proper American car with two right wings and a huge solid steel trunk!

Going to the drive in soon, if I can find one. Say, does this qualify for the historics?
07-12-2011 04:35 PM
Gary Williams A weekend pass, with parking, was $55. If your car has a large trunk, you can get two in for that price, the way some senior citizens used to do at the drive in movie.

Not confessing mind you, but you'd be surprised how much room there was in a '57 Plymouth.
07-12-2011 09:30 AM
RC Hiatt
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I thought the 3-day ticket and corral price of $45 (for two people!) was terrific.

But why no corporate sponsors, only modest club participation, and not even a simple race program so we could know who and what were on the track? The announcers did a lot of chatting and joking, but they didn't offer much detail about the cars or who was driving them.
You can't support events of this size without getting the public out, and that goes double for corporate sponsors who won't show up if attendance is not likely. The public won't go in a depression while costs are high and attendance declining, so it becomes a latino stand off. $45 for insiders is great, but the same thing for the unwashed masses is $95 with more restrictions or less benefits than are enyoyed by "participants". The 'spectators' are also next years club members, so maybe clubs can help by bearing a greater cost, even taking a short term loss to bring in more people until the ecomomy improves.
07-12-2011 09:02 AM
Gary Williams I thought the 3-day ticket and corral price of $45 (for two people!) was terrific.

But why no corporate sponsors, only modest club participation, and not even a simple race program so we could know who and what were on the track? The announcers did a lot of chatting and joking, but they didn't offer much detail about the cars or who was driving them.

At the Monterey Historics, you get there early or sit in miles of traffic. The roads are clogged with wonderful cars of varying ages and price ranges. There's an energy you can feel. At Portland, we showed up early and nearly had the place to ourselves.

Wonder if the car clubs could get together and figure out how to revitalize this event? It would be a shame to see the track turned into apartment houses.
07-12-2011 08:04 AM
RC Hiatt
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This was my first time to PIR. Why isn't this vintage race better supported? It's a wonderful venue.
I attended at least 9 of the past 11 years and attendance has declined each of the past few years. Just my point of view, but seems PIR is less helpful and friendly and with higher costs every year, a function of government. Getting to be a pain to get to the infield and back. Brother wanted me to go with him again this year, but not worth about a hundred bucks for the two of us, with parking and all. Was much cheaper back when I belonged to AROO, and may return next year. With fewer vendors and racers because of the Obummer depression, the Historics otherwise look much the same every year.

Last weeks OMRRA bike races and OVM 'show' at PIR was a ghost town! Not worth the gas to get there. The loud PA announcer was unbearably annoying. The city completely ruined the April swap meet with restrictive and costly parking and if Portland keeps it up, even the free "cars in the park" type events may be more trouble than it's worth to pay to park a target for the druggies. Much the same with the Black Powder shoots I use to go to, where use of "public" land is getting rediculously restrictive and expensive. They are also way down in attendance, and I'm not going to bother with any more of those events this year either. I wont be going to any of the Washington parks either, because of the new parking BS that state is using to restrict our use of our own land in order to pay for State employees we do not need. Still, I look forward to things picking up in a couple of years.
07-11-2011 11:35 AM
Gary Williams Great weather, fun cars and friendly people, but where was the crowd? I took a rough count on Sunday, at about noon thirty, and there were maybe 250 people in the stands. Add in the Porsche & BMW people in their corrals, the pit crews, dozing vendors (especially the woman selling ... wait for it ... bed sheets!) and a few hot rodders, and you'd have a normal crowd at VooDoo Donuts.

A depressed track worker said the Corvette club and other Chevy-oriented clubs declined to participate, despite Chevy being the featured marque. Chevy and Chevy dealerships were also notably absent as sponsors.

There were three Ferraris, no other Italian exotica, and no Jags (at least that I found). There was, however, a Siata Spring and some guy autocrossing a go-cart all day.

This was my first time to PIR. Why isn't this vintage race better supported? It's a wonderful venue.
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