newer Alfas in the USA - Page 3

Hit an Apex · #31 (**permalink**) 09-21-2007, 11:29 AM

I am pretty sure the Italian consulate here in NYC has a few new Alfas that they cruise around in. Maybe I will take a walk over there in the near future...

Maybe that walk will include a flatbed truck.

everso · #32 (**permalink**) 09-21-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hit an Apex

I am pretty sure the Italian consulate here in NYC has a few new Alfas that they cruise around in. Maybe I will take a walk over there in the near future...

Maybe that walk will include a flatbed truck.

alfasudinusa · #33 (**permalink**) 09-29-2007, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by v6alfa

I have purchased a 1997 Alfa Spider and it is here in the US sadly sitting in my garage. It may never get DOT approved and allowed to be driven. The conversion to federal standards is actually not to expensive, $3500-10,000, but without crash test results the NHTSA will not allow the alfa to be imported.

The Skyline importer in Torrance, CA is a RI (a NHTSA registered importer) actually crash tested the cars to provide safety results. They are now able to import those and resell legally to US. If anyone out there has an extra 1/4 mil, we can partner up and become a RI and crash a few alfa's to start our own import business.

**AlfaTango1** · #34 (**permalink**) 09-29-2007, 02:12 PM

This will never work. The issue is not with the title but with the DOT and EPA. The car was never certified for U.S. importation.

alfasudinusa · #35 (**permalink**) 09-30-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AlfaTango1

This will never work. The issue is not with the title but with the DOT and EPA. The car was never certified for U.S. importation.

**AlfaTango1** · #36 (**permalink**) 09-30-2007, 01:22 PM

This website is for lost titles, this car has never had a U.S. title and unless it goes through the DOT certification it never will.

alfasudinusa · #37 (**permalink**) 09-30-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AlfaTango1

This website is for lost titles, this car has never had a U.S. title and unless it goes through the DOT certification it never will.

**AlfaTango1** · #38 (**permalink**) 09-30-2007, 03:50 PM

Yeah right, you're in California and I'll bet you $1000 you cannot obtain a valid registration!

This is a 97 GTV Spider not an old Sud.

everso · #39 (**permalink**) 09-30-2007, 04:31 PM

hmmm....that get new car titles website is pretty interesting.

are there people who've tried it with newer European cars? does anybody know of anyone who HAS succeeded?

Just last week, i saw a guy on VW Vortex who has a 2001 Audi S3 in Colorado. A car which was NEVER sold in the USA. He has registered its insurance as an S4.

ANYTHING is possible...it just takes alot of dedication to get it going...

**AlfaTango1** · #40 (**permalink**) 09-30-2007, 07:45 PM

There are certain cars that have had crash tests done in their home country but have not imported to the U.S. The 1997 GTV Spider was not one of those. Think about this, Bill Gates, you know the MicroSoft guy had a Porsche 959 sitting in customs, then his warehouse for a dozen years because of no crash test documentation. Don't you think Bill Gates and his small stash of change could have found a way to drive his car on U.S. roads. I'm sure ole Bill just was not dedicated enough to find a way and he got lazy

everso · #41 (**permalink**) 09-30-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AlfaTango1

There are certain cars that have had crash tests done in their home country but have not imported to the U.S. The 1997 GTV Spider was not one of those. Think about this, Bill Gates, you know the MicroSoft guy had a Porsche 959 sitting in customs, then his warehouse for a dozen years because of no crash test documentation. Don't you think Bill Gates and his small stash of change could have found a way to drive his car on U.S. roads. I'm sure ole Bill just was not dedicated enough to find a way and he got lazy

alfasudinusa · #42 (**permalink**) 09-30-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by everso

hmmm....that get new car titles website is pretty interesting.

are there people who've tried it with newer European cars? does anybody know of anyone who HAS succeeded?

Just last week, i saw a guy on VW Vortex who has a 2001 Audi S3 in Colorado. A car which was NEVER sold in the USA. He has registered its insurance as an S4.

ANYTHING is possible...it just takes alot of dedication to get it going...

**AlfaTango1** · #43 (**permalink**) 10-01-2007, 07:38 AM

If you go to the DOT website you will see that a car can be imported as a show or display car and that would be how Gates did it. Car must have historical significance and or rarity. A 959 has that, a newer Alfa Spider would have a hard time qualifying. The Dot website also shows all the cars that are eligible and there are many that we never got over here, the newest Alfa's on the list are 1995.

everso · #44 (**permalink**) 10-01-2007, 08:55 AM

yeah that's how he did it....in fact he petitioned government to get that law passed! haha.

where are you looking on the DOT website? where do you see the last alfa as 1995?

**AlfaTango1** · #45 (**permalink**) 10-01-2007, 09:04 AM

Here is the Show Or Display guidelines from DOT and NHTSB. Yes he and Paul Allen had lobbied the Cliton Admin on that one. I'll look at the DOT site and find the link of elligible vehicles and post.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...osd072003.html

Here's the DOT non conforming vehicle list of elligible for importation.
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:...nt=netscape-pp