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Old 04-30-2007, 09:02 AM
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Selespeed Failure!!!

Hi

I've searched on here but not managed to find a conclusive answer.

2001 Alfa Romeo 147
2.0 Selespeed

Freaking selespeed system created by Satan himself, i swear it!

Problem starts:
Gearbox selection - NOT in CITY mode.
Driving along in 4th gear at around 90km/h, switched on the airconditioning and about 30 seconds later, came to a rolling stop. The car did not change down to 1st gear, and pulled off (jerkily) in 4th gear. I stopped to the side of the road and switched off.

Switched the car on and then it was in neutral, but wouldn't select any gears - forward or reverse, foot on brake pedal.

Kept the car idling and tried again but nothing.
Switched off and on again. Amazingly car engages into 1st this time. I manage to drive away.

Drove for 2,5kms in urban area, then parked the car. 10 minutes later i start the car to drive away and the cluster says 'SELESPEED SYSTEM FAILURE' and won't take any gears - stuck in neutral.

Switch car off, wait 5 minutes and try again. Car selects 1st gear with no hassles. Drive 400m and park car off for about 4 hours.

REAL BIG PROBLEM
Try to start the car.
Dashboard cluster lights up and everything shows ok.

However, gear indicator is stuck on 1 and "CITY" is NOT illuminated. Engine won't crank over.

Depress brake pedal but this is rock solid and won't travel the usual distance. Only depresses a few cm.

Car seems to be stuck in 1, and can't get neutral or reverse.

Tried disconnecting battery but nothing. Car is still stuck in this position.

From doing internet searches, it seems that this could relate to various issues:
- Actuator
- Faulty selespeed sensor (attached to brake pedal)
- Selespeed fluid
- Other electronics??

Does anybody have any clues and/or comments on how to fix this?

The car is parked in a driveway and there is no way i can move it or do anything with it. Can't get a flatbed tow-truck anywhere close, and the local dealer refuses to send out a technician with a diagnostic.

any help appreciated.

thanks guys.

RAS
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Old 05-02-2007, 01:08 AM
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ANYBODY???

Car is stuck in 1st gear. Won't crank over but instrument cluster lights up fine. Can't get into neutral.

What do i try next?
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Old 05-02-2007, 05:34 AM
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try http://www.alfaowner.com

there is more selespeed owners....
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most likely the selespeed pump failed(normally the carbon brushed or armature shorted out) and the fuse has blown. one thing you can try to recover at least temporary drive is open the terminal box on the top of yr batt(-) and flip open the fuse covers. In there you will see a 30A fuse marked Olio(Selespeed pump. I replaced mine with the Air Con fuse(40A) to get me hme 10kms away and quickly diconnected this once there. Since you can shift the gear the car cant start...this will help but wont solve the prob. Hope was useful.
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Old 06-16-2008, 06:11 AM
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man...bad luck...here in Europe we don't drive 147 Seles.cause it's bad car...we have 1.6 of 105 or 120 HP and i now that they r not so fast car and all that but they r good...we ran away from that 2.0 Seles.cause it's no good..believe me,try to get in shape that car and then gave him away...my friend had so much trouble with that car i couldn't believe..
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Old 06-16-2008, 04:43 PM
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man...bad luck...here in Europe we don't drive 147 Seles.cause it's bad car...we have 1.6 of 105 or 120 HP and i now that they r not so fast car and all that but they r good...we ran away from that 2.0 Seles.cause it's no good..believe me,try to get in shape that car and then gave him away...my friend had so much trouble with that car i couldn't believe..

I agree the seles system electronics is a pain...I love her any shape she is in though...most of times its the accumulator(ball in front of the actuator) or the seles pump thats the problem but to get to that point involves a lot of trouble shooting. I learnt one thing ...make sure the workshop owner with a Examiner is yr best buddy...will go a loooooooonnnnggg way
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Remember, it's Italian, so it's bound to be something simple.
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Remember, it's Italian, so it's bound to be something simple.
here in the UK we have a saying for simple problems that go away by themselves, "self healing Italian technology" otherwise known as something the swear box would probably filter out

But sillyspeeds often mean open wallet surgery I'm sorry to say, finger crossed it is something trivial though
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Old 06-30-2008, 08:04 PM
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here in the UK we have a saying for simple problems that go away by themselves, "self healing Italian technology" otherwise known as something the swear box would probably filter out

But sillyspeeds often mean open wallet surgery I'm sorry to say, finger crossed it is something trivial though
ha ha...good one!Seriously these Selespeeds are pretty much fragile...my gearbox just is going for a 2nd rebuild on syncros gears 1-4 and speed cone replacement on gear 2....thank god my wshop agreed to foot the bill save the oil and partial labour costs.
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