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12-01-2005, 09:11 AM
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I agree. The Twin Spark engines look very nice, the Alfa V6 was one of the most gorgeous engines out there. But the new line up is too ugly for words.
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Is that an ecotec derived engine? The cam cover makes it look a bit MX5 Miata-esque.
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Here it is, in the engine bay
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The ecotech is a good engine from what I understand but its a bit unfortunate the Alfa version looks so similar.  Especially after so many years of beautiful Alfa 4 cylinders. Maybe the performance will help.
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12-01-2005, 01:20 PM
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The ecotech is a good engine from what I understand but its a bit unfortunate the Alfa version looks so similar. Especially after so many years of beautiful Alfa 4 cylinders. Maybe the performance will help. |
performances? the 166, that it has a mass similar to the 159, equipped of the 2000 twin spark from 150cv second the romeo alpha catch up the 100 km/h in 9,8 sec while 159 2,2 with 185 cv employ 8,8 sec.poi seem that 2,200 cc 5000 turns are died beyond i.
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12-01-2005, 01:27 PM
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Is that an ecotec derived engine? The cam cover makes it look a bit MX5 Miata-esque.
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. the double shifters of phase have the same phase-difference (50 degree) regarding the drive shaft of the 2,400 ecotec from 177cv. probably are constructed are for the 1,9 -2,2 jts and 2400 ecotec vvt from the aisin
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in Europe version to direct benzine injection of ecotec the 2.200 exists one. for a long time it comes used on Opel - vauxhall, from this motor 2,200 ecotec DGI are probably the true base of the 19-2,200 jts, must know that such motors do not come more constructed in Italy but ion Germany in plant GM of kaiserlauthen, where also come constructed the 2000 ecotec supercharger from 200 cv. unfortunately the romeo alpha does not have more an Italian sport heart. the motor that is the heart of a romeo alpha is Australian German hour or (v6)
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i have spoken with some people who tried the 2.2 jts engine on alfa brera.... they were enthusiast of this engine...
you don't have to forget that the head of that engine is completely designed by alfa romeo engineers and that the technical solutions used are very superior to the last ts ones (example chain distribution, sodium cooled valves, twin phaser...)
be optimist!
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i have spoken with some people who tried the 2.2 jts engine on alfa brera.... they were enthusiast of this engine...
you don't have to forget that the head of that engine is completely designed by alfa romeo engineers and that the technical solutions used are very superior to the last ts ones (example chain distribution, sodium cooled valves, twin phaser...)
be optimist!
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in Italy the 2,200 jts it has been object of pioł critics or less heavy also from part of the specialized press, it thinks that we have a review who give 50 years carry out tests orchestrate them on the automobiles. According to two of the most asserted reviews the 2,200 jts inherits workings and technical refinements of the 2,200 ecotec to which they come added the double shifters of phase with field of identical operation (50 degree)to the 2400 ecotec and the injection directed in two is made, this last one real innovation in this field and completely developed from the Fiat group. Unfortunately beyond to pregies of l-850 GM new jts has also the defects and that is a insufficient speed in answering to the accelleratore and a insufficient propensione in turning beyond the 5000- 5500 turns  even if then insisting catch up the 7000 turns, only positive note are a drainage perfectly realized in order to reproduce the romeo sound alpha. 
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in Italy the 2,200 jts it has been object of pioł critics or less heavy also from part of the specialized press, it thinks that we have a review who give 50 years carry out tests orchestrate them on the automobiles. According to two of the most asserted reviews the 2,200 jts inherits workings and technical refinements of the 2,200 ecotec to which they come added the double shifters of phase with field of identical operation (50 degree)to the 2400 ecotec and the injection directed in two is made, this last one real innovation in this field and completely developed from the Fiat group. Unfortunately beyond to pregies of l-850 GM new jts has also the defects and that is a insufficient speed in answering to the accelleratore and a insufficient propensione in turning beyond the 5000- 5500 turns even if then insisting catch up the 7000 turns, only positive note are a drainage perfectly realized in order to reproduce the romeo sound alpha. |
non ho capito la prima frase!
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non ho capito la prima frase!
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connazionale?
comunque la prima frase riguarda 4r , ho fatto presente che in italia abbiamo una rivista che da 50 anni effettua prove strumentali sulle auto in commercioe questa assieme ad automobilismo sono pił o meno critiche riguardo al 2.200 jts su strada
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So if Alfa comes back to the USA it will bring us GM engines? Head swap or not, that sucks.
At least bring me something from Europe. If I want an Ecotec I'll get a Solstice.
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Or you could just get a Cobalt. Talk to onethumb on this board about it - the engine internals are good for 6 - 700hp.
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So if Alfa comes back to the USA it will bring us GM engines? Head swap or not, that sucks.
At least bring me something from Europe. If I want an Ecotec I'll get a Solstice.
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I agree. I and other a fans of alfa romeo of old date somewhat we are critics to us in the comparisons of puts into effect them political Fiat in the cares of the romeo alfa. Already there was a chorus of disappointment in the 96 with the adoption of the twin spark that condivedevano and share numerous parts in common with the 4 Fiat cylinders calls "pratola serra " from the place of production, even if motor said that the responsible planning of the Fiat group was the engineer motor head of the field romeo alpha before the purchase of the alfa romeo from Fiat part. But such family of motors was already thought in order to draw the twin spark for the romeo alpha and above all their place of production was Italy, while the new ones jts to 4 cylinders come from kaiserlaurten in Germany.
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