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Old 02-27-2005, 04:31 AM
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I went to the NASCAR race this past weekend at CA Speedway (thanks Richard!) and it was sooooo much fun. I watch it on tv but have never been. I WILL be going back for sure and maybe some other tracks this year too. All of you people who don't like NASCAR, go to a race, you will change your mind. I liked it now, I love it! I'll post some pics later on.
i have never liked racing for a few reasons. one is that i find the constant talking extremely annoying, the sound from the cars drives me straight up a wall and it goes on and on and on. i mean, can't they make the track shorter or something??

my husband is a serious nascar fan and has been trying so hard to get me interested in it. i feel so bad that we can't both enjoy it together. i even sat and watched one once with him, but nothing. i just don't get what all the excitement is about. a bunch of noisy cars going round and round for hours....as far as i am concerned it ranks right up there with golf....boring. and at least golf isn't loud.

i guess the reason i came here in the first place was because i was actually doing a search for how to get a woman interested in racing and came up with nothing. it wasn't until i typed in "people who don't like nascar" that i found this site. i want to understand it so bad. i want to be excited about it like other women, but i am getting nowhere.

if anyone here has any ideas on how to make me see it for something more exciting and less annoying than i see it, please help me out. my husband will be extremely thankful.
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Old 02-27-2005, 06:55 AM
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No offense to anyone that likes NASCAR, but it doesn't do it for me. I like to watch racing on tracks that have hairpins, chicanes, changes in elevation, and yes, even right-hand turns. I like the ETCC (now the WTCC), too, because the races are long enough to be interesting but short enough that the drivers aren't holding back on what they have for 100 laps, and they can complete two races in an afternoon. Plus I get to see Alfas racing. The grand prix type races on closed-off city streets are fun to watch, too, but I really like the touring cars.
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Old 02-27-2005, 06:58 AM
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For me any racing is fun and I just like it. But when you are cheering for someone in particular then it becomes another thing. That is when you start to follow it much more closer and get interested in it.

I have heard (and seen) lots of women cheer for "handsome" drivers.........I guess that couls be a start........

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MotoGP -- very exciting. it's the Formula 1 of motorcycle road racing only more exciting. There is more passing and Valentino Rossi seems to invent new racing lines every race.

World Superbike -- it took a dump when the rules mandated one tire brand and Ducati was the only competitive marque. This year looks to be the start of a big turnaround as Suzuki, Kawasaki, etc. are back in the fold. Yesterday, Suzuki won back-to-back races which is a first for them.

AMA Superbike/Superstock/Supersport/Formula Extreme -- see it live locally!! These races are often fiercely competitive, but have a slightly less refined way about them. In other words, they can be very exciting to watch!

NASCAR -- I watched the Daytona 500 last weekend. First NASCAR race I watched in years. I have to agree with Italcarguy -- it was exciting. It's a 180mph traffic jam. The techniques and strategies are unlike other forms of road racing, but just as exciting. And those couple of NASCAR road races are pretty cool, too. It's like watching pro football players (US football) trying to do figure skating. Well, bad analogy, but hopefully you get my point.
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The good thing about oval track racing is that you can see the whole track. If there is a tight race, you can follow it. This has a lot of advantages if you are actually going to attend the race. Television makes this a non-issue if you are sitting on your couch. Modern road racing coverage is pretty incredible. The only problem arises when the race for position you want to watch isn't the one they are showing!

With all that said, I'll take road racing any time. When I was a kid, we had a bumper sticker on our tow vehicle that said "Real Race Cars Turn Right."

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i have never liked racing for a few reasons. one is that i find the constant talking extremely annoying, the sound from the cars drives me straight up a wall and it goes on and on and on. i mean, can't they make the track shorter or something??

my husband is a serious nascar fan and has been trying so hard to get me interested in it. i feel so bad that we can't both enjoy it together. i even sat and watched one once with him, but nothing. i just don't get what all the excitement is about. a bunch of noisy cars going round and round for hours....as far as i am concerned it ranks right up there with golf....boring. and at least golf isn't loud.

i guess the reason i came here in the first place was because i was actually doing a search for how to get a woman interested in racing and came up with nothing. it wasn't until i typed in "people who don't like nascar" that i found this site. i want to understand it so bad. i want to be excited about it like other women, but i am getting nowhere.

if anyone here has any ideas on how to make me see it for something more exciting and less annoying than i see it, please help me out. my husband will be extremely thankful.
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I think NASCAR sux. Road racing is the way to go. check out my pix of Sebring. Sebring is in the same league as Le Mans and the 24 hours of Daytona. Nascar is the macdonalds of racing, pandering to the lowest race fans. Only reason i would go is to hunt for mullets. I mean really, you want to see a ford taurus decked in advertising?
and another thing; the whole show is patently racist from top to bottom. theres no women drivers, no black drivers, no foreign drivers. why dont they just have a Klan meeting instead? Ill keep my harsher comments to myself.
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Carlo,
Your post has a major error in it. Sebring is 20,000 steps above the Daytona 24 hours. Daytona is run by the France family which spawned the GrandAm series (boring fabcars) which is stupid compared to ALMS.
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Apex,

I stand corrected. The one thing I do respect about the 24 hours race, as I do with the others is the endurance and night aspects of the racing. Sure nascar has two night races, but they are under the lights, it might as well be daytime. There are large portions of Sebring raceway that are unlit. Drivers run by their headlights there.

And to the Lady who wants to support her husbands' NASCAR problem; Dont.
Love him for his other attributes, and even support him when he wants to go. but dont torture yourself. You will only get resentful and upset and neither of you wants that.
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Old 02-28-2005, 07:29 PM
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the whole show is patently racist from top to bottom. theres no women drivers, no black drivers, no foreign drivers. why dont they just have a Klan meeting instead?
Harsher comments to yourself? My gosh, they get harsher? If you are going to trash Nascar as racist, you need to continue on and include most forms of motor racing. I don't follow Formula One very close anymore, but are you telling me Road Racing is filled with women and minorities?

Even if I prefer Road Racing, all racing is good. It gets people interested in cars (even a Taurus) who wouldn't be otherwise.

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Old 02-28-2005, 07:50 PM
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Generic Wood,

Road racing in fact does have women drivers and "minorities" if thats what you call people from other countries. Some of carts' most famous drivers are mexican, italian, south african etc though i know its not road racing, cart is a popular form of racing in america thats not racist. Rally road racing also has people of all kinds in it as does Formula one and historic sports car racing. Theres women pro road bikers and the list goes on.
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NASCAR, F1, ETCC, IRL, Cart, WRC, ALM, Historic, NHRA... I dont care I love racing on tv or live, dirt, water or pavement. If it has a motor and is racing im interested!
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Hey RTBRACER, I have to disagree with you completely. F1 is driver skill and car setup which is the reason it is the Premier racing series in the world. Look what happened to Ruebens when Schumi broke his leg a few seasons back. There was no input for car setup for the team and he fell to the back of the grid for qualifying when Michael was missing.

It's far easier to get a car to go quickly in a straight line, than around bends. Then to set gear, suspension, diff ratios, LSD, etc. settings at optimum levels for each bend on the track makes the difference between a mutiple world champion and a multiple runner up in the same car.

There is a lot to be said for racing where there is a lot of overtaking and multiple lead changes, but that's all Nascar has going for it.

Go straight and turn left, repeat 4 times. Duh!
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Hey RTBRACER, I have to disagree with you completely. F1 is driver skill and car setup which is the reason it is the Premier racing series in the world. Look what happened to Ruebens when Schumi broke his leg a few seasons back. There was no input for car setup for the team and he fell to the back of the grid for qualifying when Michael was missing.

Actually it was Irvine. And Ferrari made sure he was at the back because they didn't want him to look better than Schumacher. Also, when an F1 car is slow, they rebuild the car. When a Champ Car is slow, it's setup devolopment 101.

Champ Cars > Formula 1.
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This guy was lost. I saw him in line to get into the track Sunday morning.

Ferrari and NASCAR....um, no
No he's not lost. His driver must have raced the Daytona 24 and now he thinks it's the worlds newest and coolest discovery that race cars can turn right too! Took this @ the 24 last month:




(in case anyone's interested, a few of my Daytona 24 pics: http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/showthread.php?t=94546)

edit: oh, F1 has become so rigged and boring that its impossible to watch. I've been to 14 GPs and used to put the "fanatic" in "fan". But the last few seasons have been dead boring and Bernie's blatant favoritism towards Ferrari just makes me sick. Nigel Roebuck's column in Autosport 2 weeks ago was pretty clear on what he thought Enzo Ferrari's take on the current situation would be (it'd make him sick too). I used to religiously watch every race for as long as the whole season has been on TV in the US. But last year I only watched 3 or 4 races and still felt my time was wasted (wish I'd seen Spa, though). I doubt I'll watch a single race this year. Don't watch much NASCAR, but the Daytona 500 was as excellent race with the cream of NASCAR drivers battling it out for the win. MotoGP and WRC are my things these days. Sportscars too (see pics link above for my feelings on ALMS vs. GrandAm). Champ car sure puts on a heck of a show here in Denver.

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