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Old 11-24-2007, 11:52 AM
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I do the same with NASCAR. Just watch the good parts.

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So what else is there!
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:09 AM
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MarcusHMM,
I hesitate to say this but, I agree with everything you've said.
I find the opinions about what makes a motorsport worth watching to be very small minded around here. Near where I grew up in Barre is a famous 1/4 mile bullring called Thunder Road International Speedway.
Thunder Road SpeedBowl

Every Thursday night during the summer you can watch some of the best short track stockcar racing in the world. I grew up watching this stuff in person from a young age and still love it. I bet if any of you guys came here for a visit next summer you would enjoy it too.

I would never make fun of someone because they loved a motorsport that I found boring, I just would not read that thread.

Anyway, I didn't want you to feel like you are all alone.
You seem to be doing just fine by youself, so I'll just sit over here and watch for awile.
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:41 AM
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So what else is there!
So THAT's why nASScar drivers go lickety-split
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:55 AM
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:49 AM
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Does the one on the right have to go to the bathroom
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:18 PM
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Not with Jacques Villenueve, Dario Franchitti, and Juan Montoya joing NASCAR's ranks. Unfortunately.
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:41 PM
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gentlemen, try WTCC, for REAL racing, or FIA GT for REAL cars! Those two classes have it all.
And WRC is of course totally cool.
As for NASCAR, I once saw a huge article on running a large NASCAR team. So, indeed, the racing itself might not be my thing, but seeing the number of races, and what it takes to get these cars run 500 miles so many weekends: RESPECT!
Try tweaking your Alfa's engine to run that hard for 500 miles!
F1 is not about who is fastest, or the best, but about wallet size, and rule interpreting. WTCC is production cars, close racing, more overtaking in one race than in a season of F1, and ballsy drivers.
FIA GT is for kick @ss cars, that run real hard. Cool!
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:48 PM
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Yeah, but she doesn't want to miss the call from "Girls Gone Wild"... Don't you hate those who don't care except to use NASCAR as a trampoline?

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Old 11-26-2007, 03:09 PM
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I understand lawnmower racing is very close at the finish too, as is bar stool racing. But I'm not interested in either. I used to work at Riverside raceway and miss real stock cars that were actually based on real cars. This reminds me of spec Renault race cars. Not interesting unless you personally know the drivers.

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Old 11-26-2007, 03:41 PM
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Hmmmm.....Alfa's are junk, they always break down, Ferrari Wannabe, look good but never run, etc.etc.
That's what A LOT of people think about YOUR car. It's just an opinion but still, you don't like someone trashing your marque when they don't know much about it.

NASCAR has a purpose, and it is serious racing, just ask Juan Pablo. Any driver that can handle a car at 180+ miles an hour an inch from the wall and an inch from another car and keep it going....even in a circle....deserves my respect.

Michael Shumacher was a joke... and acted like a crybaby on and off the track but the $$$$ he brought to F1 was the reason they kept him around so long. F1 is a parade, not a race......the cars look the same, they all follow the leader around, no one passes, and even the pit stops are boring.

Motorcycles are the best....those guys are just plain crazy!! GO NICKY HAYDEN!!!


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Old 11-26-2007, 09:38 PM
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Michael Shumacher was a joke... and acted like a crybaby on and off the track but the $$$$ he brought to F1 was the reason they kept him around so long. F1 is a parade, not a race......the cars look the same, they all follow the leader around, no one passes, and even the pit stops are boring.


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Well, I don't know much about Michael Shumacher's personality since we didn't hang out much together, so I'll defer to you on that, but I would argue that he was the greatest driver ever in racing's premier event.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:13 PM
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F1 bad, Nascar good?

I find it ironic that the guys putting down F1 for being a dog and pony show, (ie... boring racing), would brag about look alike cars (no longer stock cars), that drive in circles for hours, drivers that beat each others brains out whenever they can on national tv, and races that after 500 miles of racing still bore the heck out of me. Granted some top F1 teams always dominate but show me a racing class, Nascar included that that doesn't happen? I would much rather watch an F1 pit stop or watch the control it takes to pilot one of these extreme machines around at the speed they do than watch 4 guys smash into each other for 500 miles in a circle. It does take control to hold a Nascar inches off the wall at 200 miles an hour, just as it does to hold an F1 car from hitting the wall at full power out of a hairpin. If you've ever been in an open wheel car, as I have, you would realize just how hard it really is. Even with all the electronics. As for Michael Schumacher, he didn't become world champion by being some bozo off the street. Love him or hate him the man can drive. I should say dominate. I saw stories about him in German magazines when he first started and he was just as good then. Montoya couldn't beat him. That's why he went to Nascar. Besides I never saw an Alfa Nascar. But maybe an old 164 would work nice? Like the 164 Procar???
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Old 11-27-2007, 06:27 AM
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I liked Stock Car racing a long while back when they were really Stock Cars and not fiberglass replicas with painted on headlights. I even saw King Richard at Islip Speedway in 1971 running an event. Back then, it was called Grand National racing. All different nowtoo much hoopla and BS for me.

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"Mark in Kentucky":

Just read your post(#40), what-in-the-world is THAT about? Just 'taunting' the BBers? If not: why do you own so many Alfas? Wouldn't you be more 'true' to your convictions owning a Taurus, or two???

I do agree w/you about Motorcycle Road Racing, although I prefer the smaller "cc" competition. IMO the remainder of your reply is just 'flaming'!

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Old 11-27-2007, 08:21 AM
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... F1 is a parade, not a race......
Ok, that means I should be able to join in!

slam105,
Don't mind Mark - he's probably been spending a little too much time underneath his newly acquired 164S, and who knows what he's seen, or inhaled!

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