Tires - Page 2

**ECARRILLO** · #16 (**permalink**) 06-03-2003, 10:04 AM

Actually something more like 1800lbs........ a little more since Ihave added some weight. I'm jogging every day now so it will go a little back down.

Hopefully they hold a little more with a lighter car!!!!

Thanks!

AlfaRacer75 · #17 (**permalink**) 06-03-2003, 11:12 AM

My experience with the Azenis is also on a heavy car... they were on my '02 Subaru WRX... 3100 lbs!

Quickshoe · #18 (**permalink**) 06-03-2003, 04:29 PM

Nothing is going to surpass the grip of the Hossiers.

As far as what is "almost as fast under most conditions"

1. Kumho V700 (ecsta or victo)
2. Toyo Proxes

I really liked my old BFG R-1's, however their life was a little shorter than the Kumhos and Proxes and they are no longer available. 2 of 3 of my still standing AROSC TT lap records are on r-1's.

I've never been really impressed with the Yokohama's (old 008's don't compare in grip level to the Kumho/toyos/hoosier) I don't think that the a032's are much better than the Azenis...given the choice to run with AROSC, I'd choose the Azenis and not be penalized for the "r" compounds. In my opinion the a032's are bottom of the barrel in the "r" compound. (which is what I'll be racing on in the enduro). Not my car and I didn't pay for them so I won't complain.

-Daryl DeArman

**papajam** · #19 (**permalink**) 06-03-2003, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by Quickshoe
.....In my opinion the a032's are bottom of the barrel in the "r" compound.......

-Daryl DeArman

Quickshoe · #20 (**permalink**) 06-03-2003, 05:16 PM

The 032's don't develop the grip that the other "r" tires do.

Their initial turn in response isn't as quick as the others.

I'm not certain how they would work as a street tire. I'd imagine that their grip would be better than almost anything else out there. There tread life would probably be pretty disappointing.

From what I hear, no personal experience, the Falken Azenis Sports make about the best dual purpose tire.

AlfaRacer75 · #21 (**permalink**) 06-10-2003, 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by papajam
What don't you like about them? I was thinking about a set for street use.

**papajam** · #22 (**permalink**) 06-10-2003, 04:46 PM

My thought for using the 032s on the street comes from how impressed I was with the 008Rs I ran 15 years ago on both street and track. The current plan when (if) this 68 GTV ever gets the restoration finished is this; it will be (mostly) a fair weather toy that will be driven to club events, car shows, swap meets, the annual AROC convention and track/autox events. The street tires, mounted on 14X6 BWA Sportstars, will be used 95% of the time getting to the events. For the concours, original steel wheels will be shod with 165 14 Michelin XAS. A set of gumballs will be on 14X6 Panasports for the track.
Given these circumstances, with treadlife a non-issue, what would y'all recommend?

Quickshoe · #23 (**permalink**) 06-12-2003, 08:12 PM

I'd use the Falken Azenis Sports for the street wheels.

For Gumballs I'd go with the KumhoV700's or Hoosiers.

The 032's don't compare to the old A008's, I don't know if the rest of the "R" tires have got that much better, or if the A032's missed the mark by a whole bunch. For the Yokohama fans out there I have heard rumors that they are coming out with a new compound "DOT-R" tire.

Anyone been on their site or heard anything?

**italcarguy** · #24 (**permalink**) 06-12-2003, 08:55 PM

to me, nothing compares the the old A008. they were a great tire. i happen to love the A032R's. they work really well and for some reason, i am just as fast on those as i am on the hoosiers and kumho's so i see no need to spend the extra cash.

yokohama came out with a "soft" compound of the A032. they said they'd send me a set to try out when i am ready. i'll let you guys know how they work. tire rack already sell them on their site. they are about $10-$20 more than the "hard" compound which has been out for a few years.

**italcarguy** · #25 (**permalink**) 06-12-2003, 08:57 PM

oh yeah almost forgot...the yoko's are also awesome in the wet!

75evo · #26 (**permalink**) 06-12-2003, 10:16 PM

But still more expensive than the Kumhos ECSTAs though. The Kumhos are by far the cheapest. Do you like it better than the Kumhos?

Also Hankooks are coming out with some race tires next year.

**italcarguy** · #27 (**permalink**) 06-12-2003, 10:27 PM

the kumho's (victoracer)and yoko's (A032R) are the same on grip (to me). i choose the yoko's over the kumhos because:

1. they last longer - A032 5-6 races, victoracer 4
2. the size i get 195/60-14 seems to be easier to find the yoko.

i have never tried the ecta's because they don't come in my size.

**papajam** · #28 (**permalink**) 06-13-2003, 04:52 PM

Just went to tirerack and it seems that the 032R may get the nod.
Not only do they come in the right size(195/60-14), but they could double as the gumballs as well. This could eliminate the third set of wheels/tires. However, how trusting should I be with 25+ year old BWAs? And what's the difference the S and H compounds?

**RossoGTV4Me** · #29 (**permalink**) 10-11-2006, 10:38 PM

I was on Tire Rack looking for the A032R's in 195/60/14 and it seems Yoko discontinued the 195 size, unreal. They still ahve the 185 but arggh. I was going to put the A032R on the GTV for those fast weekend mornings and occasional AROSC use. Hmmm...

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Originally Posted by italcarguy

the kumho's (victoracer)and yoko's (A032R) are the same on grip (to me). i choose the yoko's over the kumhos because:

1. they last longer - A032 5-6 races, victoracer 4
2. the size i get 195/60-14 seems to be easier to find the yoko.

i have never tried the ecta's because they don't come in my size.

**conedriver** · #30 (**permalink**) 10-12-2006, 05:34 AM

Elisao,

As you probably know, Hoosier makes their DOT radials in two compounds, "R" for race and "A" for autocross. Khumo has been pushing Hoosier for the last few years in autocross performance, and the last series Hoosier was considered by some to be too soft. This was the A3S05 (I assume you have been using R3S05). This year, Hoosier came out with new tires and designation: A6 for autocross and R6 for race. I use A6 for autocross, but bought a set of R6 for the AROC Convention time trials in Tulsa. These were great tires. MUCH better performance than the shaved, heat cycled Khumo Ecstas I used in Seattle. I put a couple of practice sessions and the time trials on the tires, and didn't see much wear. I have removed the tires and stored in plastic bags until next year.

Hoosier recommends more negative camber for the R6 / A6 tires (check their website for recommendations https://www.hoosiertire.com/rrtire.htm).

Also, Hankook supposedly has entered the race tire wars, but I have no information. The Tire Rack http://www.tirerack.com/ sells AVON DOT tires for autocross, but I don't know if they also make a race compound.

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Originally Posted by ECARRILLO

...One more question: What tire do you all like the best in the R compound class considering tread life and stickiness.........

Thanks for your replies!

Regards,