05-01-2007, 07:29 AM
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The good old days...
I have a simple question which comes from reading the thread on F1:-
When were the good old days, what made them good and do you have any recollection of them?
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05-01-2007, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Fat Lady Racing
I have a simple question which comes from reading the thread on F1:-
When were the good old days,
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1980
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/show...hlight=watkins
1979 & 1974
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/show...ght=grand+prix
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/show...hlight=watkins
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05-01-2007, 12:07 PM
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For me, either Mario on either side of the pond or the Senna/Prost years in F1, especially after they stopped trusting each other.
And the one drive that sits out above all others...Senna in a cosworth engined McLaren at Donnington in the rain. 6th on the grid, 1st after lap one and then pulled away and lapped everyone up to third place.
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05-01-2007, 12:39 PM
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good old days...
For me the cool graphics 
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05-01-2007, 01:11 PM
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A slight correction, Senna started 4th but went down to fifth after Schumacher tried to auto-cross him.
Check this out...
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05-01-2007, 01:24 PM
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...Schumacher...
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Monoco - the Iceman
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Loud pipes save lives.
Ride hard or stay home - but, then again, the Alfa stays garaged when it rains.
1973 GTV - bought 3/06 (intend to keep forever)
1969 GTV, #AR1530021 - sold 10/72 (guess didn't intend to keep forever)
Current project: '69 Corvette bought in '73, DD '73 - '80, in storage 1989-2002, now apart (#1 on the Bucket list)
Last finished project: '75 Honda 750 bought new, DD '75 - '79 - in storage 26 years (1984 - 6/09) - an EZ resto
Favorite weapon: Browning A-Bolt .300 WM with 200 grain handloaded Noslers & a Leopold 2x7 or my Benjamin 312 with open sights.
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05-01-2007, 01:29 PM
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The good Ol' days:
When you didn't have to worry about paying for food, rent, bills, racecar upkeep; You didn't have to go to work or school every day, or you didn't have to worry about homework; basically your only worries were what color crayon you were going to use to write on the wall with, and then to worry about what dad was going to do when he got home.
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05-01-2007, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by geh458
The good Ol' days:
When you didn't have to worry about paying for food, rent, bills, racecar upkeep; You didn't have to go to work or school every day, or you didn't have to worry about homework; basically your only worries were what color crayon you were going to use to write on the wall with, and then to worry about what dad was going to do when he got home.
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Loud pipes save lives.
Ride hard or stay home - but, then again, the Alfa stays garaged when it rains.
1973 GTV - bought 3/06 (intend to keep forever)
1969 GTV, #AR1530021 - sold 10/72 (guess didn't intend to keep forever)
Current project: '69 Corvette bought in '73, DD '73 - '80, in storage 1989-2002, now apart (#1 on the Bucket list)
Last finished project: '75 Honda 750 bought new, DD '75 - '79 - in storage 26 years (1984 - 6/09) - an EZ resto
Favorite weapon: Browning A-Bolt .300 WM with 200 grain handloaded Noslers & a Leopold 2x7 or my Benjamin 312 with open sights.
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05-01-2007, 03:45 PM
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When were the good old days
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i think lots of things have slowly contributed to this :
-carbon/carbon brakes make the stoppings distances so short, making corner entry overtaking much more difficult.
-drivers aids like semi-auto gearboxes, traction control, power steering, electronic control of too many perameters, etc. take much of the traditional driver's skills out of the equation.
-ever tightening rules controlling chassis, engine, and aero design take away much of the inginuity from the engineers and uniqueness from the different teams.
-carbon fiber suspension is so fragile that car-to-car contact becomes more likely to take someone out of the race.
-manditory pit stops now make up the majority of passing strategy.
-modern rear wing/diffuser designs have too much wake turbulence, upsetting the downforce of following cars. this makes close following in corners difficult to impossible, thus minimizing/negating handling advantages a following car/driver may have.
i still watch F1 for the spectacle, the technology, the insane speeds, and the sheer driver talent. but its certainly not as exiting as it used to be . . .
oh, did i mention i miss the sparks from magnesium skid plates and condensation vorteces from the massive rear wings
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05-01-2007, 04:34 PM
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The good old days were when designers were still focused on making cars exciting and more involving to drive instead of just adding more gadgets to ensure any old monkey can drive one.
Basically while we were still learning the art ... it's been going down hill since the 80's and is now going real fast. This is paralleled in motorsport with stupid rules making the sport completely contrived, because basically we know how to make a race car now.
As always when learning something new it's fun!
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05-03-2007, 03:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Lady Racing
For me, either Mario on either side of the pond or the Senna/Prost years in F1, especially after they stopped trusting each other.
And the one drive that sits out above all others...Senna in a cosworth engined McLaren at Donnington in the rain. 6th on the grid, 1st after lap one and then pulled away and lapped everyone up to third place.
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05-03-2007, 07:13 AM
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I attended the 1970 USGP at Watkins Glen as an impressionable 11 year old. My heroes of the day, Mario, Ickx, Regazzoni, Stewart, etc. The sound of the shrieking F1 engines echoing thru the hills on that crisp autumn day...pure magic.
In 1972, I was back at the Glen to see the 6 hr enduo. The 312 Ferrari's had a field day, with Mario ultimately winning. The Daytonas won thier class also. Those V-12's yummm.
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05-03-2007, 12:38 PM
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I admit that I'd love to see a return to stick-shift, clutch pedal, and grotesquely wide slicks. Fewer chicanes...and bring back 1000bhp turbos!
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05-03-2007, 04:16 PM
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Fatlady,
It was even better than that!!! Senna was 5th after the first corner!!! These days... if you're 5th after the first corner, your 5th at the end of the race... and that's if you're one of the top teams!!!
I agree with you... those days are my definition of the "Good-o'l-days".
Check out the Video on the home page of www.f1live.com
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05-03-2007, 06:07 PM
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Not to stur the pot & comming from a recovering sprint on dirt driver, the good ole days were before they put wings on sprint cars. Get 20 sprinters on a 1/4 mile dirt track and you will see plenty of passing, 2, 3 & sometimes 4 abrest in the turns, and an occasional valt over the catch fence, now that's action.
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