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Old 03-03-2007, 11:53 AM
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Suppose Ill have the stick to boring old tracks like Silverstone,Spa, Monza and the Nurburgring!!!!
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Old 03-21-2007, 11:16 AM
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CanAm photos from website
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Old 03-21-2007, 12:19 PM
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Great pics. That's a lotta V8 right behind your head in those little McLarens!

Was the 917-30 part of that series at the end (or was the cause of the end)? There was some ungodly horsepower.
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Old 03-21-2007, 05:17 PM
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Everyone needs to drive a 917 once in there lives,especially when Its wet!!!
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WHat was powering those UOP Shadows??? Was it all American Muscle?
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Old 03-21-2007, 07:48 PM
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Cool Cam-Am Power

Yes, the UOP Shadows and all other Can-Am cars (except the Porsche 917's and the ocassional Ford powered car) were powered by big block "Chevies" The power to weight ratio of those cars will not be approached again! They would not downshift going into corners because the engine inertia slowed down the braking. They would just shift into neutral, brake into the corner, select the gear they needed to accelerate out and go like "h*ll!"

The fun part was that you could find them working on the cars in very unusual locations. Once at Mid-Ohio, we went past a Gulf station in town (Mansfield, OH) and watched the McLaren team work on their two cars in the two bays on a Saturday night between qualifying and the race on Sunday.

Also remember being at Elkhart Lake in the garage on a Saturday after the Can-Am qualifying. The Formula B's were running their race when it started to rain. Remember Denny Hulme standing next to us watching the race and commenting to his crew member that most of the cars were still on slicks. He replied that "those are probably the only race tires they have!" How true.

Those days, unfortunately, are long gone, and will never come back again. If you were there at the time, remember them fondly as I do. This was another series where it was proved that the only substitute for cubic inches is cubic money. And like F1 today, it proved that very limited rules only result in one team dominating the series with little, if any, on track passing.

If you want a good idea of the power, seach on the Brian Redman Challenge. A year or so ago, some dumb (but rich) owner of a McLaren Can-Am car let his mechanic drive it into town for the Friday night Concours. As soon as he reached the highway with his son in the passenger's seat he decided to show the kid what kind of power the car had. Next thing he knew, it was upside down in a swamp on th side of the road. The only thing salvageable was the number plate.
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Yes, the UOP Shadows and all other Can-Am cars (except the Porsche 917's and the ocassional Ford powered car) were powered by big block "Chevies"

Well, not exactly the same Big Block Chevy that you can/could have ordered from GM Performance Parts. About the only thing similar was the block. They started out using the 427" ZL1 all alumimum block (the completed engine which was basically an all alum L88 in Chevy trim could be had in Corvettes in 1969 for an option price the same as the base car price - only 2 were made) and finished with a displacements around 500 cubic inches. (Oh, yea) I think the blocks were then obtained from Renolyds Aluminum - the tin foil people. The only question I have is could one be fitted in a GTV
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Well, not exactly the same Big Block Chevy that you can/could have ordered from GM Performance Parts. About the only thing similar was the block. They started out using the 427" ZL1 all alumimum block (the completed engine which was basically an all alum L88 in Chevy trim could be had in Corvettes in 1969 for an option price the same as the base car price - only 2 were made) and finished with a displacements around 500 cubic inches. (Oh, yea) I think the blocks were then obtained from Renolyds Aluminum - the tin foil people. The only question I have is could one be fitted in a GTV
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Reynolds Aluminum was the supplier. A friend of mine worked for Reynolds on that project that became the UOP Shadow which later became the Thunder air plane project. When he retired he gave me 2 Shadow pistons that I have in the garage that are now rust covered because of the tin coating on them. Some of his stories about Denny and Bruce are quite interesting. The last of those blocks that I saw had been cut in half and was in a display case at Reynolds' R&D building. Don't know what happened to it when they closed the automotive R&D department.
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I have 8mm of the first IROC at Riverside, somewhere?? I'll try to hunt it down along with pics of a few Times Grand Prix at Riverside. Have a few close-ups of Mark Donahue and his 1000+HP Porsche beast, somewhere? Never thought I would want them later in life. Who knew? Only the "Shadow" knows.....
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Just stumbled across this site with some pictures of the historic CanAm challenge

http://www.research-racing.de/can-am05-1.htm
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