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I don't think there is a single F1 fan that doesn't think that banning traction control is a good idea.
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04-03-2007, 12:11 PM
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I don't think there is a single F1 fan that doesn't think that banning traction control is a good idea.
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Why ?!
More caution from drivers = less overtaking
Same with:
groves vs. slicks
narrow cars (of today) vs. wider cars
passive suspensions vs. active suspensions
All these promise to put the driving back, but it result was boredom.
So get ready for even more boredom.
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04-03-2007, 01:38 PM
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I beg to differ...
SLicks and wider cars, reliyng less on Aero grip, Allows cars to follow more closely behind each other allowing drivers to actually set up a pass without the car getting all squirly on them.
The absence of tractionion controle allows for driver mistakes... i.e. I believe it was the second round of 1994 when Senna spun it around on corner exit while chasing Michael.
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04-03-2007, 06:18 PM
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Formula 1 2007
Have wondered about launch control and traction control on Formula 1 cars, are they two different systems or the same system with different labels?? I know this probably "beating a dead horse" but I would like to see the return of some kind of "stick shift", operated with the right or left hand. Would not need a clutch pedal but I think the finger operated shifters on the steering wheel are too easy. Like WRC cars have, no clutch pedal but the driver has to take his hand off the wheel to shift. It would make for more exciting racing and great drivers with "lesser" developed cars might actually be able to win!! Kind of tired of it always being just the top three teams/cars/drivers in the winners circle!!  |
04-04-2007, 04:25 AM
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I beg to differ...
SLicks and wider cars, reliyng less on Aero grip, Allows cars to follow more closely behind each other allowing drivers to actually set up a pass without the car getting all squirly on them.
The absence of tractionion controle allows for driver mistakes... i.e. I believe it was the second round of 1994 when Senna spun it around on corner exit while chasing Michael.
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04-04-2007, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Sprintn
I beg to differ...
SLicks and wider cars, reliyng less on Aero grip, Allows cars to follow more closely behind each other allowing drivers to actually set up a pass without the car getting all squirly on them.
The absence of tractionion controle allows for driver mistakes... i.e. I believe it was the second round of 1994 when Senna spun it around on corner exit while chasing Michael.
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Slicks and wider cars and movable balasts were banned to "put the driver back" and improve spectacle. Instead it made races boring.
Without TC overtaking will become even less posible.
In the spectacle day there was:
- ground effects aerodynamics (until 1983)
- wider cars
- slicks
- movable balasts
- active suspension since 1987
- witch was expanded/builded upon to become Active Ride
Now these were good enough for Lauda, Piquet, Prost, Senna and Mansell to provide us with high quality spectaculous racing, but were banned to:
- to "put the driver back"
- impove spectacle (what a laugh)
- cut costs (what a laugh)
- improve safety (many time it did the opposite)
What we got were accidents (some fatal) and boredom (the prevailance of pit strategy vs. actual in race overtaking)
Now those cars with their , today banned, aids were esentially slower (especially in the corners) and the G loads were adolescent's play by today's standards.
Sorry increased boredom and regress for the sake of phony nostalgia is not atractive to me.
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04-05-2007, 09:40 PM
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Sepang Friday session 1 times
1 5 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:34.972
2 1 Fernando Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.220
3 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.712
4 6 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:35.779
5 16 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:36.308
6 15 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:36.522
7 12 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:36.597
8 38 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:36.885
9 11 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:37.052
10 10 Robert Kubica BMW 1:37.121
11 14 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:37.484
12 35 Sebastian Vettel BMW 1:37.837
13 18 Vitantonio Liuzzi STR-Ferrari 1:37.882
14 4 Heikki Kovalainen Renault 1:38.143
15 3 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:38.300
16 20 Adrian Sutil Spyker-Ferrari 1:38.720
17 22 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1:38.966
18 19 Scott Speed STR-Ferrari 1:39.130
19 8 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:39.234
20 7 Jenson Button Honda 1:39.331
21 23 Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1:39.357
22 21 Christijan Albers Spyker-Ferrari 1:40.074
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04-07-2007, 12:36 PM
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Nice last 1 minute or so of qualifying!!! Yep... stayed up late. I won't give the results away to all of you that have not yet seen it though.
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04-08-2007, 09:03 AM
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What a race. Hamilton was terifc and Alonso.
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04-08-2007, 09:36 AM
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... and the boredom mounts. The only suspense now is when will Massa make his next error, and what will it be?
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I still say Massa is an excellent #2 driver. Today was simply McLaren's day..
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04-08-2007, 04:11 PM
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Bring back Schumi,hed of eate hamiliton for breakfast
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04-08-2007, 05:18 PM
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I still say Massa is an excellent #2 driver. Today was simply McLaren's day..
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04-08-2007, 08:12 PM
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When a rookie makes you mess up....i think that you probally need help....Ferrari needs Schumi to come back and train the drivers....and to be there to keep them calm....Massa shouldn't be making those mistakes.....it was still McLaren's day, I agree
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I still say Massa is an excellent #2 driver. Today was simply McLaren's day..
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One thing that I cannot understand is why can't Ferrari produce a good start system? It's always been like that, since teams introduced self starting technology (4 or 5 years ago?), Ferrari's have always been pretty average getting off at the green light.
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