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Old 12-10-2003, 10:41 AM
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Mount a camera that records whats going on in the car - BigSwede
Never, never have the camera pointed towards your hands or the gear shift. 'Cause then your friends will know you are not telling the truth about your excelent driving position and technique (ha, ha)

re: Farace - rollbar in a Spider - AROSC will now let open top cars drive in our Street Performance group for Driving School, with only a bolt in "street" roll bar (that is without the diagonal brace inside the main hoop). Our thinking is that these students do not push as hard as the Time Trialers. So check this out with the club that runs at Lime Rock.
But, I have had a bolt-in SCCA type roll bar in my Alfetta ever since I put it on the track 10 years ago, but it's your head.
And any bolt in rollbar can be transported to the track on a bicycle rack and then bolted in at the track. One of our instructors and class champion, Judy, did that for years.
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Old 12-10-2003, 06:06 PM
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I'm pretty much a newbie also - started when I turned 60 with a weekend in a race rigged 58 Bugeye Sprite at the U of VARA. Thought I new how to drive till I overdrove a AR Super Ti into 9 at Willow and it was redesigned into its current configuration - Dirk Stohr's towable barbecue.
I now go to every school (currently advanced time trial) and every time time trial event I can (only missed one this year). Nearly 5 years later I'm finally getting close to maximizing my stock Ti and am ready to move up from HP to GP.
A couple of pieces of advice that I've found very handy.
1 - Hit the head before you buckle up. As a paramedic once said to me, "A fast stop makes a smelly mess out of an overfilled bladder".
2 - Talk to yourself out loud (Brad Gray), there's nobody else in the car to think you're bonkers.
3 - Sit deep. Use your backside to feel the dynamics like a blind person uses their fingers to read.

It really feels good when you get it right.
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Hey Paul

Who said anything about showing it to others?
Just look at it by yourself over and over again, analyze and focus on what to improve.
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Old 12-18-2003, 06:00 PM
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Driving Skills

I hope Italcarguy and RTB Racer dont post to this one.

They have no driving skills.
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Old 01-13-2004, 12:33 PM
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Farace posted in Sept 2003

***I'd like to know some basics just to enhance my road driving,
something more than what the seat of my pants tells me.***

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I'm an advanced police driving instructor at The Metropolitan Police, Motor Driving School, Hendon, North London, England.

This school was set up seventy years ago to train police drivers

We teach all police drivers and drivers for various Government offices. So that includes officers driving on blue light and sirens to calls. Pursuit drivers. Traffic officers. Driver training in Anti-Hyjack techniques. Skid pan training. All police motorcyclists, including special courses for the Japanese Police who come over every year.

No matter what driving course an officer attends, be it a Standard Response, Advanced, VIP Anti Hyjack, Royalty,
Stanard Motorcycle or Advanced Motorcycle, all officers must read the Police Drivers Manual. (separate book for motorcycles)

The basic 'System of car control' is set out in the police driver's manual called 'Roadcraft'

I spend every working day driving and training officers to drive on the public roads, with an exemption from the speed limits.

We use the format in this book as a simple basis to deal with very hazard.
The main points that I teach are lifting your vision to see what most people 'don't' see, but the clues are there. That way I can drive like a hot knife through butter with maximum progress and most people won't even be aware of my presense.

Add to this the 'System of car control' as set out in this book.

All officers are marked against the four 'S's
Strictly in this order.

Saftey
System ( as per the book)
Smoothness
Speed, or as I prefer to call it Progress.

(43 sub headings are used for each skill area)

This book is a supplied by Her Majesty's Stationary Office, know as the HMSO. It's a British Government office which is for the good of the country and not any one particular political party that happens to be in office.

This is the book that all police drivers in London have to read and they are tested on it's contents before they can attend a driving course.

Below is a cut and paste from Amazon.com
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Roadcraft: The Police Driver's Manual

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Paperback 92 pages (14 October, 1994)
Publisher: The Stationery Office Books; ISBN: 0113408587
Category(ies): Reference & Languages
Average Customer Review:5/5 | Write a review

Amazon.co.uk Sales Rank: 800

www.amazon.co.uk

Check the UK site for book reviews, which mark the boo 5 out of 5

Remember, this book is the basic theory behind all police driving.
Once the officer has read the book, he/she will attend the school for a three week course for standard response, then another four weeks for the advanced course.
There is no substitute for tuition, but reading the book first will give you that 'Basis' should you get training.
And if you don't, you will still be able to understand enough to always be in the correct position on the road, at the correct speed, with the correct gear engaged to drive safely with the maximum safe progress.

Plus remember, track driving is different to street driving.
On the track it is a sterile/safe environment and different techniques may be used.
On the street, it's a 'live' environment and to drive at the same speeds with the public around, takes a different thought process.

Try both. Have fun on the track, which will help lift your vision, especially if the driving is competitive.
Stay safe on the roads with the advice from Roadcraft.

Vince
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My 2 cents......

Focus on learning to drive BEFORE you focus on making your car fast. There are a lot of guys out there with slow cars that can whip the guys with fast cars. Hmmmm. No, really, LEARN from everybody. Go for rides with instructors and people with more experience than you. EVERY single person I ride with is doing some part of each track better than I am. It's really amazing how different everybody drives, and you can learn more from that than anything. Lots of people throw money at their cars, and over-engineer them. Smooth is fast, and as Denny Hulme said, "the more you steer the wheel, the more the speed you steal". And while I'm on the quotes, Emerson Fittipaldi says that you can always pick out the amateurs, because they are "too fast in slow corners, and too slow in fast ones". Hmmm. That makes sense.....
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AROSC Driving School (AROSC PLUG)

As it so happens, Brad, and Paul, will be among the featured instructors at the upcoming AROSC Driving School to be held at the Streets of Willow, on March 6th and 7th.

My wife and I have attended these courses since the early 90's and continue to do so since investing in one's own skills brings in more returns than just throwing money into a machine when the operator isn't skilled enough to explore its limits.

I highly recommend this class. You will not be disappointed!

Don't forget, March 6th and 7th!
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Nizam,
Thanks for the "shameless plug".
Your commission check is in the mail.
See you at school. The flyers were mailed this week.

Haven't heard what luck Brad is having in his search for a Guest Instructor. Wish him luck.
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