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Old 11-24-2006, 05:10 AM
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Hi Will,

This may be more information than you want, but might be usefull: A GTV makes a great autocross car, and autocross events is a lot of fun. However, not to dissuade you from running, before you start changing any suspension or engine parts, determine what sanctioning body will conduct the events you intend to run. SCCA vs. AROC (or ARA) have vastly different preparation allowances. SCCA has a strict list of what is allowed - or by interpretation, not allowed at different class preparation levels, while AROC has point values for anything you might do then classes for cars at different points levels. Having said that, many local events are fairly lenient on preparation allowances and won't get overly strict over modifications. But, the faster you run, the more attention will be paid to the car, and it's legality.

Here's the best suggestion for your GTV: Dee and I ran a new 1971 1750 Spider, and had a hard time with wheelspin until I got a letter from ARI indicating the car could have been ordered by a dealer with limited slip differential. The car was transformed, and we had a lot of success.

Just to start, your 1750 GTV runs in SCCA G-Stock, of 38 cars in G-Stock at the 2006 National Championships the top 24 were Mini-Cooper S. If you do anything other than stiff shocks, front sway bar, and R compound tires, your 1750 runs in SCCA D-Street Prepared.The first six cars in that class were BMW 325 & 330.

Having said all that, check out the "Pain train cometh for Budsy" thread. It documents the great time some of us had with our Alfas at autocrosses this summer.

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After driving my 1750, I think it might make a great autoX car. The torque curve might make it pretty quick with some suspension tuning (it seems really soft). I already have a car for the track, and the Alfa is way to nice to strip to make a track car, but redoing the suspension for some ocasional autoX is under serious thought. A firm ride doesn't bother me, and it just looks too tall as it is.

Are GTVs just not autoXed for some reason? I haven't been to any local SCCA autoXs, but at the smaller ones I haven't seen any. (E-type Jags, yes, Alfas, No.)

Thanks,
Will
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Old 11-24-2006, 06:48 AM
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No Pain!

Yea..... Check out that thread. John M+ calls himself "Beat Budsy Racing" - Exactly what he CAN'T do. My new Race Name is going to be "Vendetta Racing". I don't need to have a Vendetta for John but it sounds good, So why not? Self-fulfillment? Your right Murray. Johns got the ticket to ride Going to the next national meet will be another defeat for John.
I'm not worried about the other guys in the club. As George says, There all "Baby Seal Meat". I guess Eric and Hoard are "Seal Meat" for George.
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As I said my Datsun roadster is the race car, the engine is way to hot to run CSP where it should, however the series I have been running has a Vintage street, and Vintage street prep. class, and they are more forgiving. I run against full track 240Zs, vintage Vetts ect. I don't really care about winning, just having fun and learning to be a better driver (because there are way too many bad ones out there).

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Will,

I should have included this in my earlier response; a BB member has been running west coast autocrosses in a GTV. You could probably find something searching for "Autocross". Also, a vintage class sounds like fun. Finally, your 1750 will really be fun to drive with a limited slip. A complete axle from a 1972 or later Spider or GTV will bolt right in.

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As I said my Datsun roadster is the race car, the engine is way to hot to run CSP where it should, however the series I have been running has a Vintage street, and Vintage street prep. class, and they are more forgiving. I run against full track 240Zs, vintage Vetts ect. I don't really care about winning, just having fun and learning to be a better driver (because there are way too many bad ones out there).

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Will
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Yea..... Check out that thread. John M+ calls himself "Beat Budsy Racing" - Exactly what he CAN'T do. My new Race Name is going to be "Vendetta Racing". I don't need to have a Vendetta for John but it sounds good, So why not? Self-fulfillment? Your right Murray. Johns got the ticket to ride Going to the next national meet will be another defeat for John.
I'm not worried about the other guys in the club. As George says, There all "Baby Seal Meat". I guess Eric and Hoard are "Seal Meat" for George.

Mmmmmm.....baby seal meat sounds tasty with some fava beans and a nice Chianti! Budsy and I were fantasizing today. We all know George is going to just spank ole Eric and John Hoard (I am saying this not ever meeting the two renowned Alfisti). But what if...just what if....ole Budsy and John M beat them too?!!!! BAM!!!!

To ole Budsy.....Bring on your Vendetta Racing Budsy! You'll have an all expense paid vacation tour of the Alps on the Pain Train courtesy of John M soon enough!!! WOOOOO WOOOOOOOOO! I got your Vendetta right here!!!!

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John's Pain Train

Wooooooooo....Wooooooooooo,,,,,,!

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There's one GTV autocrossing in the SF region, me. Also a gt junior and a sprint show up from time to time. But DSP is a very fast class and I have trouble keeping up.

Here's the results from a typical San Francisco region autocross:

http://www.sfrscca.org/solo2/Results...h/round05.html

Makes me wonder how a GTV6 would do in DSP. Almost all the other cars in class have a V6 or a turbocharger. The corollas in my class are double overhead cam rear wheel drive drift cars. And the BMW and Merkur are slightly detuned race cars (or maybe not), both putting out well over 200 horsepower.
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